SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
I said Joel take`s note`s, my mistake, GOD take`s note`s but i just don`t get it, a person`s eternal destiny hang`s in the balance on that one truth, JESUS is the only way to GOD, yet people listen to someone who won`t say that, like the BIBLE say`s, they exchanged the truth for a lie…….
What will you say to JESUS someday Rev? now hold on there JESUS i know Joel Osteen and he said it`s not like that, i bet you won`t get away with it.
Rev you seem to know alot about Joel Osteen, well do you approve of the theatrical roof there, you know, it change`s color, this roof cost GOD only know`s how much, seem`s like children that are supposed to be learning about GOD would be watching the ceiling all the time instead of listening to the sermon, i mean can`t you just hear? heyyyyy Lary a minute ago the ceiling was red, hey look look now it`s turning green, Hey Bobby look now it`s turning tri color`s, two buddie`s talking to each other while Mom and Dad are not watching them, and your ok with that i`m guessing, and this would be ok with you because why? money wasted for show to say look at our toy`s but it has nothing to do with salvation, trust me it don`t.
People keep saying over and over about how the church make`s them feel good, lot`s of thing`s can make you feel good, but if a preacher does`nt tell the world, yes you must believe that JESUS is the only way to GOD, then i would`nt give that preacher a chance to make me happy, i would say that`s ok brother you can keep it all for youself, now see how happy you are?
To “play misty,” I am not focused on Joel’s house, money and power. Additionally, I am not focused on the things of this world. I was clearly making a statement of success that he has to make a point. And fyi, I already do have it thank you very much..lol. Also, I NEVER said joel makes me feel good. Might want to adjust your glasses..lol. Afraid of Joel? No. Joel is doing nothing wrong. Anyone thats in the public will get critizied. Joels no exception. He hes a fraud, why is he still on the air? I mean, we no about Robert Tilton and hes off the air because people found out about him. Listen, I will defend Joel to the end. “Play Misty”, get over whatever jealousy you have of Joel and become a supporter. Joel is far along with his walk with christ hint that is why God has given him what he has today, not just money and a big house.
To “Eagle Wings”, do I approve of their roof? What does that matter. Thats just for effects to make service more enjoyable and not catholic like. Its just like people who say well why do preachers need a million dollar house when a one-hundred thousand house will do? Its there choice. Joels church is awesome. The lightings for effect and you can steal enjoy the service and message with it. So do I approve, SURE DO!
To all the Joel Haters, instead of slandering joel, how about you pray for him since you think hes doing something wrong, which he isn’t. Pray that God will touch his heart. Stop you allegations and pray for Joel and the staff at Lakewood. This is the era of Joel Scott Haley Osteen and he is good for America. With all thats in the world today and the crap on tv its good to know we have Joel to set an example of what it means to live a holy and godly life. Pastors job is hard. Especially when your in the public like he is. I pray for joel and his family and the body of Lakewood every single day and God is doing some “unusual” things through this church. Lakewood Church very much like the church in the book of acts. Every church should be like that.
THIS BLOG IS RIDICULOUS. I WATCH JOEL EVERY SUNDAY MORNING, AND APPARENTLY YOU HAVE NOT!!!!!. HE PREACHES AND TELLS EVERYONE THAT WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD, AND WE HAVE LOYAL BLOOD RUNNING THROUGH US BECAUSE WE ARE SAVED CHRISTIANS. HE IS THE BEST PREACHER THAT I HAVE EVER LISTENED TO, AND UPLIFTS MY HEART EVERY SINGLE DAY. THAT IS THE WORK OF THE LORD. THE LORD TEACHES US THROUGH HIM. WHAT SCAM. MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO GO TO LAKEWOOD CHURCH AND LISTEN MORE ATTENTIVELY, AND STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE IN YOUR THINKING. SCEPTICISM IS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL. JOEL ALSO DOES WORK FOR ***FEED THE CHILDREN***. SO, MY ADVICE TO YOU…………..GET OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND START READING IT, AND YOU WILL FIND ALL SORTS OF THE STORIES THAT JOEL PREACHES ABOUT. YOU ARE THE SCAMMER NOT HIM.
SANDY
WESTFIELD, MA
To Sandy, I agree. FINALLY a person with a brain. I have read through the bible so many times and have learned a lot more from listening to joel. I agree with you Sandy, Joel is the best Pastor going today. I pray that every pastor would get a vision like Joel.
Pastor Terron Fleming, I usually don’t join in the conversation on this post anymore, but I just saw your comment and couldn’t believe my eyes. Did you really just say that you have learned “a lot more” from Joel Osteen than from the Bible?!?!?!?!
You must have mistyped. There is no way that a true Christian pastor would ever make an outrageous comment like that. If you did say that, you basically are trampling on Christianity itself.
Please clarify.
THE rev. said he was`nt focused on Joel`s House, but if you look at post 317 you will clearly see where he said he would like to live in Joel`s 1. 2 million dollar house, so you say i need to adjust my glassess, sound`s like you need more than adjustment, you need new one`s, your own word`s contradict you, secondly nobody said anything about hating joel as you put it, thirdly you say you would`nt tell a person that`s a millionare what to preach, what`s money got to do with it? but i do believe by your word`s, you are intimated by him, else you would`nt keep talking about his worth……you said you was`nt interested in the thing`s of this world, well if you knew Genisis from Revelation`s, you would know making a statement like you made about wanting to live in his, as you put it 1.2 million dollar home,and the light`s in the ceiling, you would know that these are thing`s of the world……you ask the question, if Joel is so wrong, then why is he a success? well just b/c in your mind he is a success, don`t mean he is right, the devil has power to, he lead`s people astray everyday, and no i`m not saying Joel is the devil, you say we should pray for Joel, well truth is we should pray for everone, but if you read any of my note`s you would see where i do pray for Joel and everyone else, it`s not about hating Joel or anyone else, it`s about what he said on Larry King, that would apply to me as well, if i was on Larry King or any other talk show, and the question was put to me, Larry King—–well Joel when people say you have to believe in CHRIST they are wrong are`nt they?——Joel said, well i don`t know if they are wrong, i mean g wiz rev. it`s on the clip above…….i don`t care how much money he has or you have or anyone else, JESUS SAID IF YOU WILL NOT CONFESS ME BEFORE MEN, THEN I WILL NOT CONFESS YOU BEFORE MY FATHER WHITCH IS IN HEAVEN, as i said earlier, a first grade child could understand that……..that`s why people are at odd`s with Joel, and anyone who has read two page`s of the BIBLE know`s, if you hum haw around and won`t come out and tell People that yes you have to believe JESUS is the only way to GOD, well i will tell you plainly, your faith is in vain, and yes you will be seperated from GOD for all eteranity for denying the only begotten SON OF GOD, it can`t be made any plainer than that………so it`s not about hate for someone, it`s about doing it GOD`S way and not man`s way, so you can have the biggest church in the world, but if you don`t tell people JESUS is the only way to GOD, then you are a member of some fat cat club, and i assure you GOD is not in that building anywhere, even as much as you would like him to be, when you do it GOD`S way then he will be there, but not until….Rev. say`s Joel is the best pastor going today, make`s one wonder if you are really a pastor, you are siding with Joel if that` the case, and you both won`t say Jesus is the only way to GOD…………GOD BLESS ALL.
Sandy say`s we need to read our BIBLE, well Sandy with all due respect, if you read your`s, you will see where it say`s, JESUS said if you will not confess me before men then i will not confess you before my father whitch is in heaven, you say you learn alot from little brother Osteen, well one thing`s for sure, you`ve learned it`s ok to not say JESUS is the only way to GOD GOD GOD, it`s in your BIBLE Sandy, all you have to do is read it, the BIBLE call`s it like it is……..THEEEE blindddd leadinggg the blind, and they all fall in the ditch, so you are following a person that is SPIRTIUOSLY blind, sorta like having a blind driver, only worse, stoppppp let me out……GOD bles you Sandy………
To “Joel” I must have mistyped. What I meant was I have read through the bible numerous times and there has been things that ethier didn’t stand out or I didn’t understand and through Joels phenomenal messages, God has used him to help me comprehend certain things better through Joels example. To ‘Sonny” I did say I wanted to live in joels house but I also put “lol” after it as I was joking. I don’t want or need joels material things as I have my own..Aditionally, apparently you didn’t read my last blog as I told you joel did go back on larry king and corrected his statment and he also but a letter on his website. Once again, Joel is the best pastor going today and if your looking for a gooooooood bible base church, go to Lakewood or Cottonwood Christian Center.
Additionally, its not in my “mind” Joel Osteen is a success. A big one as that. Let me ask you “sonny” how many people are you winning to christ? How many letters are you getting telling you how god has you used to change their lives, restore broking relationships, breaking addictions..etc? I guarantee u, joel has u beat by millions..now no we should compare but we also shouldn’t judge when were not doing anything…God bless joel and the body of Lakewood!
All the years that I have been a christian I have been misinformed, I truely thought that only God could judge man for his sins..
I don`t know where Joel`s website is where he reversed his decision on, yes to have to believe in Christ to be saved, i also don`t know why you would have to even think about such an important issue, that should be the first thing you learn before you even think about Preaching, i don`t know about him going back on Larry King either, i`ll check it out, but if he did i`m glad he did, b/c i`ve been beating this drum from the begining,yes you have to believe in CHRIST to be saved, pessonally i believe everyone on this site has a love for GOD or they would`nt be posting, but you have to be right, and if you don`t think you have to believe in CHRIST to be saved,then pray tell who do you have to believe in……..Caprice said all these year`s she has been misinformed, well Caprice the BIBLE say`s we will one day judge the ANGEL`S, i looked it up for you word for word, i knew what it said, but i wanted it to be word for word,nothing added,nothing taken away,the BIBLE say`s…….we are commanded by the LORD JESUS, do not judge, or you too will be judged (Matthew 7:1) on the other hand, the BIBLE also exhorts us to beware of evildoers and false prophets and to avoid those who practice all kinds of evil. how are we to discern who these People are if we do not make some kind of judgement about them? Christians are often accused of ” judging ” whenever they speak out against a sinful activity. however, that is not the meaning of the scripture verses that state, do not judge.” There is a righteous kind of judgement we are supposed to exercise- with careful discernment ( John 7: 24 ) when JESUS told us not to judge (Matthew 7:1 ), he was telling us not to judge hypocritically. (Matthew 7:2-5 declares), for in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use,it will be measured to you. why do you look at the speck in your brother`s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? how can you say to your brother, let me take the speck out of your eye’when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? what JESUS was condemming here was hypocritical, self-righteous judgements of others……..in Matthew 7:25-5, JESUS warns against judging someone else for their sin when you yourself are sinning even worse. well saying you don`t have to believe in CHRIST, i don`t know of any worse sin, i`ve never said, nor believed, you don`t have to believe in CHRIST, so if someone teaches this, i have a right according to the BIBLE to judge it and call it what it is- sin….if i had at anytime said or told someone that you don`t have to believe in CHRIST, and then i turned around later and corrected them in judgement, then i would be judging hypocritically,something GOD say`s is wrong…..so this is the kind of judging JESUS commanded us not to do. if a believer sees another believer sinning, it is their christian duty to lovingly and respectfully confront the person with their sin (Matthew 18-15-17 ), this is not judging,but rather pointing out the truth in hope-and with the ultimate goal-of bringing repentance in the other person (James 5:20)and restoration to the fellowship. we are to speak the truth in love(Ephesians 4:15), we are to proclaim what GODS word says about sin. 2 Timothy 4:2 instructs us, “preach the word;be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage-with great patience and careful instruction; we are to judge sin’ but alway with the goal of presenting the solution for sin and its consequenses-the LORD JESUS CHRIST John 14:6………so if you look at my notes, you will see thats what i did, i said Joel was wrong for not saying you have to believe in CHRIST, i never called him any names or talked about his wealth,or his home, i did say i dont understand the ceiling that changes colors at the church, i mean i dont think its rocket science to know that children will spend alot of time staring at the ceiling when they should be listening to the service………..GOD BLESS ALL.
I WOULDN’T DARE TRY TO SIT IN GOD’S SEAT AND JUDGE! I’VE BEEN DELIVERED FROM MY PAST HABBITS AND SIN. GOD IS A GOD OF MIRACLES AND I AM LIVING, WALKING PROOF! MY CHILDREN ARE ANOTHER TESTIMONY! WHEN YOU ARE GUIDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, GOD GIVES YOU THE DISCERNAMENT TO IDENTIFY GOOD AND BAD SPIRITS. I BELIEVE THAT JOEL OSTEEN IS A MAN OF GOD AND WHEN YOU WALK THE NARROW ROAD, SATAN WILL USE ANYTHING AND ANYONE TO ATTACK. I ONCE BELONGED TO SATAN, BUT NOW I BELONG TO MY JESUS.THATS WHY SATAN IS SO ANGRY WITH ME AND HE WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO SEE ME FALL! BUT GOD IS AN AWSOME GOD AND WILL SHIELD ME AGAINST ALL EVIL!! I PRAY THAT GOD WILL TOUCH YOUR HEART AND OPEN YOUR EYES TO HIS GOODNESS ,MERCY & AWSOMENESS!!!!
Joel Osteen…#1
By the way, this took place a year or to ago so I doubt the letter is still on his website. Joel clearly stated that when people called the church and complained he reviewed the larry king footage and posted the letter on his site and went back on larry king and retracted his statement. Put it to rest. Your not going to win. Anyone who knows joel knows his heart and I can’t wait for all of us to be in heaven having one big party worshipping our big god. So stop the bashing on joel until you get the facts straight. those videos mean nothing…
I enjoy Joel Osteen because he preaches the bible but relates it to everyday living. This country has been torn apart over the last 3 decades because of catholic priests who supposedly preach the bible. But what also amazes me is that catholics are not allowed to read the bible.
I was born a catholic and proud to say that I am a born again Christian, Catholism should be abolished, it is a supressed religion. At least after watching Joel Oseen you feel good about life and yourself. Have you sat for a catholic sermon, boring, boring, boring.
Leave the guy alone, he makes people feel good. It’s nice to watch a 30 minute program and have no sex, violance,vulgar language. Hmmm something we should all think about. And society wonders why the kids today are so screwed up, maybe they should shut off their t.v.s
I did`nt have any intentions of winning, GOD HAS ALREADY WON, OVER TWO THOUSND YEARS AGO, I have to QUESTION your understanding when you continue to say i`m bashing Joel, i`m not bashing anyone, i just told you what was written in the SCRIPTURES, don`t judge falsey, if you really are a rev. you should have learned that your first day of BIBLE school, so i don`t have to win anything, you just don`t understand the scriptures,you clearly don`t have your facts straight, for instance you said you did`nt say anything about Joels possessions, then you recanted your story and said you did comment on his possessions, laugh out loud, as you aptly put it, but i love and help everyone i can, b/c if you don`t, your faith is in vain……….the videos might not have meant anything to you, but to true believers, as the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words, you have no defence against it, your not in check, but rather your in check mate, you have no move rev. but as i said, you should have learned you have to confess CHRIST your first day of BIBLE scool, that is if you went to BIBLE school, some people don`t go you know……….to ALICIA, I did`nt sit on any seat, i just typed what was written in the KING JAMES BIBLE, so you are confused, you certainly can judge according to the KING JAMES BIBLE, it`s in your BIBLE…just don`t stand in judgement on someone for something you have done yourself, i`ve never said, nor will i ever say, when someone says, well when people say you have to believe in CHRIST they are wrong are`nt they/? then i say, well i would`nt say they are wrong….i`ve never said or believed that, if you don`t believe me, ask me………i`m thrilled you are delivered and having a wonderful life, but i assure you, you did`nt get it from someone who says they don`t know if your wrong for not believing in CHRIST, i mean that`s an elementary thought, it realy is……….NO MAN COMMETH TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME, WORDS OF JESUS…..I would love to be at the holy party in heaven myself, i don`t know if he is big or not, but none the less i would love to be there, if you want to know how big JESUS is, ask Kenneth Copeland, he says he knows, that poor soul has more hang up`s than a dry cleaners, and yes i hope he stops his maddness before it`s to late. GOD BLESS ALL………
One of my best friends was catholic, he died in 1971, i loved him as a brother, and words can`t say how much i miss him, i have`nt seen his children since, he was in the Navy Reserve…….all i know about Catholic faith is, you go to confession and confess your sins to the,what they call father, truth is the father can`nt forgive his own sins,to say nothing of mine, also the BIBLE says call no man upon the earth your father, for you have one father, and that is your heavenly father……….
LET GOD JUDGE HIM!!! If you dont beleive what he teahces thats fine, dont listen. You have a choice of who you let speak into your life. I dont know who told the lie he doesnt peak about God or Jesus hin his sermons because he does, I have listened to some of the shows and that is a all out lie.
You dont have to be ordained by anyone but God. No man on this earth can ordain you to preach God’s word, that comes from God himslef. And teaching you to live a happy life is one of the things he should teach his congregation. Why be here on eath unhappy when God said he will supply all your needs, when are his child, when all you have to do is ask in son Jesus name! Would you rather he taught unhappiness, and misery?
Are you trying to jugde him? Let God do his work please.