SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
wonder where tyrone got off to? tyrone must have gathered up all of his chixens and left town, or went to higher ground, hope you are safe in the texas storm tyrone, GOD BLESS……..
Let me say this about Joel Osteen. He does not thump the bible over your head. I am tired of going to churches where you leave more miserable then when you went in. I know I am a sinner, I don’t need to be reminded of it everytime I go to church. What Joel does for me is to focus on the positve things of my faith, to help use my faith in every day life. To stop being negative and walk around with doomsday attitude, to see that our God is a great God and that my job is to show the rest of the world our God through my actions, attitude…I look at his congregation and amazed at the different ethnicity, all sitting together, praising, worshipping God. If God has given him the monies to spread the Gospel which Joel does all over the world, if God is using Joel to bring those who do not know him to His kingdom, those who have been shunned by other Christians who sit on their thrones of judgement, then I pray for his ministry. At my last church, there was no way I could have brought 2 of my friends because they just did not fit the mold and they would have been judged because of their lifestyles, but I have them watch Joel because they LISTEN to him and feel comfortable in what they are receiving and as a result have come to want to know more about our God. That to me is the more important issue. I also encourage them to watch Charles Stanley. The point is, God uses different strokes for different folks and Joel’s message is one of Hope, Peace and Joy and he does speak about God and of the enemy.
I just want to say that i believe that Joel Osteen is a great TV
TELEVANGELST.i watch his TV show every Sunday morning
you can tell that God is right there on the stage with him. maybe he didn’t go too school.BUT
WHEN HE HAS GOD STANDING THERE BESIDE HIM HE DOESN’T NEED SCHOOL BECAUSE HE HAS THE BEST TEACHER THERE IS. i HAVE GOTTEN ALOT OUT OF HIS SERMONS. IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE JUST WHAT I NEED. God IS USING Joel & his wife in a mighty way. and if you know any thing about the bible states anything that Jesus had a teacher when god calls you to do something he will give you what you need. I think he is the best
And i have never ever heard him ask for money at the end of his sermon.Joel keep up the good work. i hear that he will be coming To Atlanta GA soon and i surely want to be there
As is stated in The Book of Revelation, [And I’m paraphrasing here, as I believe the Bible to be the best corrupted, misused, and used in misguided ways to decieve followers of those who use it seemingly for purposes of good, but mostly towards “Service to Self”], and most popular, after The Koran, The Talmud, The Vedic Texts, ect. books in modern history, so I don’t keep it anywhere near me, I keep instead a deep faith that all is just as it is, in Gods Perfection] “In the End Times, there shall arise “False Prophets and Charlatans” among you, and they will lead thee astray from the “True Path”… Leeding their Flock (sheeple, as in people) to the slaughter.
The “True Path” starts and ends from within and in nature, for that is where one really finds God, and the Christ Light, and in the end true salvation.
And he’s, in my humble opinion, noteably one of them. Amasing great Wealth from his followers for himself, and Noteriety through his products and media coverage for himself, yet not really giving anything of value back, like suggesting his dis-affected members in TX move to a safer locale, to his members.
Truly yours,
James Edward Taylor
Santa Monica, CA
Joel has been one of my favorites to watch. Joel quotes from the Bible in his sermons. Who are we to judge Joel? The Lord our God said we must tythe 10% of our earnings. The tytheing is to let God know that we love him, that we’re in obedience in his Word and as all know money can cause people to judge, to hurt and to become so evolved around the power of it. We are obeying the Lord when we tythe. As in ANY ministry, whether it’s being broadcasted or actually going every Sunday or what not, we take a chance. If we hear the Words of our Lord in the sermon and it comes from the Bible, who are we to judge. Did everyone forget that if we judge others, we too will be judged. If any ministry is fake, vengeance is not ours but that of the Lord. Believe in God’s Word, obey his Word.
to the writer of the blog/site and the majority of responders, do yourself a favor and get professional psychiatric help. cognitive behavior therapy is a good choice. life is too short to spend it with such serious emotional illness.
Ok, I can tell by the way you talk you are such a pessimist. You are free to think whatever you want. What I feel he is doing is not just trying to help us get through the day but apply the word of god to your every day life. So what if we start thinking more positive and that we can change our lives. There is truth to what he says, If you are more positive you will be rewarded in life. Yes he does need some money to keep the church going but that is not all he talks about. That’s why he doesn’t even ask for money in his broadcasts… Hello!!! He is not trying to haggle anyone he is just to talking about how we can live a more fulfilling life every day, and make us notice how christ does work in our life every day, even in the most suddle ways. There are worst things in the world than a preacher trying to get us to be motivated and think positively. I think you want to assume the worst in people and that is part of your problem, open your mind, then maybe you too, could start living a more fulfilling life. Showing us how , believing in christ helps us in our every day life is not a bad thing!!!!!!!! You take Joel so out of context it is ridiculous.
I say this with love and respect to everyone on this earth, yes we all struggle with our everyday life and sin that comes our way, but i`ve yet to see one posting where osteen followers can explain, how is it that you can cll yourself a preacher, but yet you go on one of the biggest talk shows on television ( LARRY KING ) and tell the whole world, well i would`nt say people are wrong for not believing on JESUS CHRIST….I mean here is someone who has denied the SON OF GOD, JESUS said if you will not confess me before men, neither shall i confess you before my FATHER and his ANGELS……….. so it don`t make any difference how good little joel or anyone else for that matter,makes you feel, you are listening to an untruth…..joel is a good motivational speaker, he get`s people pumped up, but hardly anyone i personally would pay any mind to, in fact those of you who openly confess JESUS, could teach little joel a few things…..when you deny JESUS, nothing else you say means anything, b/c GOD don`t hear it anyway….if little joel went on tv and told the world, yes you have to believe on JESUS, and stop teaching that JESUS had to go to hell and have this big grudge match with the devil to finish the work on the cross, on the cross, JESUS said, Father into thy hands i commit my spirit, not Father into hell i commit my spirit…….joel, along with alot of other prosperity teachers teach, yes you can speak your own world, money, wealth, health, into being with words, it`s rediculous, the BIBLE don`t teach that. the reason people fall for this kind of teaching is b/c they have`nt studied their BIBLE, they just believe what someone tells them, they are fooled into believing just because someone has the title, preacher,revern, or whatever they call themselves……GOD BLESS ALL.
You know when you speak of the christian faith it can get really rough with the topics you have to take into acount,this is something you have`tn heard from any platform or preacher,i guess they are afraid to go there, but the following is the truth, if GOD is who he says he is, and i believe he is who he says he is…but talking about sin, even though ben ladden had the twin towers knocked down in new york and many people died that day, did you know that GOD still loves him, it`s laddens sin that he hates, not the person, and the way you can know this is true, you look at the life of saul, who later became the apostle paul, when he had the damascus road conversion, saul sought out christian people, and he and his companions that traveled with him would kill christians everwhere they found them……but the BIBLE says the apostle paul was the greatest preacher who ever lived, often preaching until day break, how would you like to have a preacher like that? but the fact is, ladden killed a lot of people that were`nt christians at all, but saul ( the apostle paul ) killed christians everywhere, so if GOD, who is no respector of any people, whitch the BIBLE says he is, if he would forgive paul, then he would certainly love to see ladden stop his maddness and come to faith in JESUS CHRIST, GOD and the Angels would rejoice at his conversion, and my heart goes out to those dear people who lost their lives on 911. i think of them often and what they went through on that horrible day. not that what i said reflects on joel, but people who know what the BIBLE teaches would love to see joel confess JESUS to the whole world, not say he does`nt know if people are wrong for not believing on JESUS, well if you don`t confess JESUS, then why even waste your time going to church? GOD BLESS……
Hi
I understand what you are saying about this man but I think that you are missing the point.
This man makes people feel better. religious or not, you must agree that religion is in the mind. You can do nothing with out faith. Wether this faith is in the lord or in the good things to come that Olsteen preaches, it helps people to believe that their life has purpose. it helps people have faith.
just my two cents
Tyrone flemming where are you man? i`m getting worried about you, i thought one of your chixens might have eaten you up…..what do you think about all of this tyrone? give us some feed back tyrone.
Everyone has their own thoughts on how everyone should spend their money, raise their children, what neighborhood to live in, etc. To me you guys are the ones insecure. Joel Olsteen is talking about staying positive, avoiding crap like your web-site. Just because he does not put up a cross on the wall or not mention the bible enough or who and who does not go to heaven, like you think you know…does not give people the right to bring a postitive role model down. Who cares at what bank he got a loan from, who cares about what building he decided to use…(if you haven’t noticed it’s packed every sunday) I swear…you people are so freakin jealous. To actually spend time creating a web-site just to trash someone you don’t even know seems like maybe YOU need the life and to find out why you are so misearble that to feel one ounce of good about yourself you must try and change peoples mind on really the facts of being a good person, having a positive attitude. We should put little worms like you way far back in our thoughts. Really dude, get a life and try NOW to become a good person and stop getting your pleasure off of running others down.
Cheri p calls joel a role model, must not take much to be a leader for you, like Bobby says, you can talk all day, but you can`t give an answer as to why would a person follow joel when he went on LARRY KING SHOW and said he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on jesus,of course you have to believe on JESUS, YES YES YES, YOU DO…you talk about people selecting their neighborhood, being jealous of joels money, i don`t see any post where people talk about joels money, but money and neighborhoods have nothing to do with following JESUS, i will watch to see how you explain to the rest of us lesser likes, why and how can you claim to be a preacher of the gospell,GODS WORD,and tell people you don`t know if people are wrong for not beleiving on JESUS? you obviously have no clue what the BIBLE is even about, but i pray that someday before your life is over, you will study your BIBLE and learn the truth, and pray that joel learns as well..God bless you dear…
You have spent a great deal of time and energy researching and working hard to discredit Joel Osteen and judging other prominent pastors. What positive things are you doing yourself for the kingdom? I understand that Christians are sometimes taken advantage of by their leaders, who are human and subject to corruption and sin, but that doesn’t negate their good works. Nor is it our responsibility to police every single minister who preaches the gospel. God takes care of that! They will have to ultimately answer to Him for their misgivings. You must never have listened to a Joel Osteen sermon because he does talk about God. And he must be careful how he words things in the media because he’s under scrutiny not just by other Christians but by unbelievers as well who are looking for an excuse to reject God. I believe that you should take a hard look at yourself and your own motives for creating this forum!! May God penetrate your heart!
I agree with Lanette, I listen to Joel every Sunday morning b-4 going to my on church. I am of the catholic faith and was always taught not to judge other people only God can judges us. He said to Larry King that he didn’t know if the non christians would go to heaven or not because it up to God. and never once in one of his services did I hear him ask for money and to go see him speak is only $10.00. I thank God every day for Joel Osteen because he got me back on the right track and helped me to realize that God does love me no matter what I have done. God has been working miracles in life since I started practicing what Joel says. Never listen to enemy and bless others no matter how small the blessing and God will bless you in return. He always says to remember that God loves you, he quotes from the Bible and have you ever seen his full service; I don’t think so or else you never would have created this forum.
I think you people talking about Joel Osteen should be listing to what he has to say. You sound very unhappy and negetive. That is not what the Lord wants for you. If you didn’t worry about things that are not your business, and judge others this world would be a nicer place. Joel Osteen says, “Let God be the judge not me.” If he charges $360 a seat thats fine. Did you ever think that maby thats why you can watch it for free at home.
I have just returned from Houston where I attended a service at Lakewood church. As a first time visitor I was fortunate to be seated directly behind Joel and his wife Victoria. They warmly greeted me and made me feel welcome. The service was beautiful and exceptionally professional. While I understand your concerns about the fact that the front of the church features a globe rather than a cross, I have to correct some of what you say in this thread. Jesus was mentioned many many times. A call to the altar was made in no uncertain terms. The handout quoted the sinner’s prayer as the first statement. Most importantly I deeply felt the power of the holy spirit while there.
May I suggest that you take a trip there to experience this important ministry first hand.
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I have been to one of Joel’s gatherings and I paid a very small amount to get in. He is truly a child of God. He is a very humble man,timid actually.
I’m sorry you feel that strongly that you would feel the need to speak negatively about him. He that is not against us is for us.Mark
9:40 For whoever is not against us is for us.
Dear brother in Christ PartI greet you in the name of Jesus Christ. It is anotehr time to write this letter to you hoping that you are doing well and fine . Kindly do not have any questions why the letter for this letter is for thanking you for the good work you are doing inorder to sarve God . So when I was doing my searching through the computor I come a close to find your ministry I was very much interested with it thus attacted me to affiliate with it to do the work of God. Infcat we have a fellowship with 30 members and 12 orphans this orphans need the support from the church where by the church do not have enough resources to support them. Kindly I request some help from you . Moreso we need your prayer so that God to help to do his wonders because we dont have a comfortable worshiping church we do worsh under the tree even the sun and rain would disturb us even disturb the meeting when it is going on. So let us pray our God who his above all because through him anothing is impossible. Infcat i will be very happy to receive the response of the letter. May the grace of God be with you always is our prayer to you. Yours in christ paster Zachary Begi
I have followed the Osteens for many years, as has my family. Your information is incorrect. From reading your post, it is apparent you are not interested in researching the subjects you attack; it is simply how you see it, your opinion, which you are entitled to, regardless of how ignorant it may be. He speaks of God through his sermons, there is absolutely no one could walk away from hearing one of his sermons and saying he never mentioned God. It is not possible. Maybe you should watch one of his sermons before you post lies. I feel sorry for you, you are missing out on something wonderful, something that could rid you of your bitterness, jealousy and resentment. Your hostility is misplaced; you are attacking someone who preaches about love, and kindness. Integrity is something you obviously don’t value, it couldn’t be. When we have so many corrupted and selfish people that spread hate and division, people that deceive and cheat others out of their savings, leaving them destitute, homeless…liars, thieves. All the evidence is given to you; no research for the facts is required! If you valued the truth, and because you are to lazy to research the subject you attack, it would seem,(since you are so concerned for others) that they would be the ones you launch your character assignation on. Not a man that preaches about God, love, being positive, someone who has helped people, without partiality. Find one person Joel has damaged. I challenge you. Get the facts, and then write something about him. The truth will set you free. But, your not interested in the truth…