SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
Joel`s customers are just not Bible savy, that`s why they believe everything he tell them, he says if you say something long enough it will come true, now anyone with the mind of a jacka– knows that is not true, for instance, just keep saying i wish my house note was paid this month,i wish my house note was paid this month, i wish my house note was paid this month, you can say that until your tounge falls off and the house note will still be unpaid, so we know you can`t speak things into being, i mean wake up people, if people were smart enough to see through this nonsense teaching they would have more month after the money, i mean you should give to GOD b/c it`s all his anyway, but these fat cats are taking you people to the cleaners.
Tyrone flemming must have took his chixens south for the winter, caus i aint heard a word from that boy in a month i spect. tyrone might be hidding out in joels basement, caus he said he wanted to live there in that mansion, tyrone if your there you better not let joel find you with them chixens in his basement, or your dream to live there will be short lived.
I really cannot believe everything I have just read! Do you think that you are doing the right thing by judging Joel Olsteen or anyone else for that matter? Those who judge will be judged, does it not frighten you? It does me. It is no ones place but God to say weather a person is right or wrong and I think thats why Joel was very careful in what he said about who goes to heaven and who don’t, WITH GOOD REASON. Maybe thats what is wrong you don’t fear God and you should. And don’t think for one minute I’m judging you, this is only my opinion. I’m not nor do I want to be your judge our heavenly father will do that himself.Joel is a wonderful man and very inspirational in many ways. I watch his show a lot and every show i have watched he is constantley quoting the Bible so I’m really not sure what sermon you are watching. Also something you said that really disturbed me is that you think Joel took over the church because he was money hungry?? When you recieve a calling it is as Joel said undescribable, there is no way to put it into words, when God calls you to do something you feel it in your soul and you must obey, just as he did. Joel has made that church what it is today and umm have you seen how full it is??? People are there for him because he is a man of God and I’m trully sorry you don’t or won’t see that. Maybe one day you will. GOD BLESS YOU
Heather you like so many others don`t understand the BIBLE, the BIBLE says do not judge falsely, but when you say joel or anyone else for that matter, it don`t matter what preacher it is, when you go on national television and tell the whole world that you don`t know if people are wrong for not believing on JESUS, then you have no business trying to preach the word of GOD, big deal, so there are 50.000 members, did you ever read in the BIBLE where it says straight is the way and narrow is the gate that leads to ever lasting life?, and few there be that will find it, but broad is the road and wide is the gate that leads to destruction, and many there be that will enter there in..only GOD can judge the heart, that is true, but GOD also commands us to test preachers to see if they be of the truth, and joel or any other preacher you can name, if they tell the world they don`t know if people are wrong for not believing on JESUS, then they are as lost as the next sinner, preacher or no preacher. you said people don`t fear GOD, well dear if you buy into this false teaching, you should fear GOD.explain to the rest of us why it was ok for joel to say on the Larry King show, he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on JESUS, you are listening to sweet kind words, and being brain washed, anyone who says they don`t know if people are wrong for not believing on JESUS, could`nt in any way be from GOD, there have been people on this site that have asked 20 osteen followers, maybe more, to explain how joel can be from GOD when he would`nt even take a stand for JESUS on one of the most watched shows in the world. none of the osteen followers came back to explain this to the rest of us, will you? GOD BLESS YOU DEAR.
Scott I may not know everything about the Bible but I know without a doubt I’am a christian who loves the Lord and believes that he died so I can have eternal life in him. I learn more and more everyday, like everyone else. When it comes to religion and beliefs we could go on and on all day I posted a comment on this site because I myself love Joel Olsteen and the change he brings to mine and everyone elses life that loves him also. I don’t remember hearing him say what you claim in the interview, I’m not saying your wrong and if he did in fact say it i agree it was wrong, Jesus is the only way and a christian should say that without any thought. I don’t think Joel’s teachings are wrong, I think if they were when i watch his show i would not feel the greatness I feel inside, I know it is the Lord without a doubt and you or no one else can tell me any different. So the Olsteen sermons are not your thing and thats fine but don’t you dare put down the people who care for him that is not your place.MAY GOD BLESS
Well Heather i`m` not saying you don`t love the Lord, and you said you love Joel, well i not only Love Joel, but i love all of GODS creation,people as well as allthe animals he created…But this is not the point, you said you did`nt believe Joel said he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on JESUS, well the interview with joel on the Larry King show is on this site where he clearly said in easy to understand english,this is what was said….LARRY KING, well joel when people say you have to believe on JESUS they are wrong are`nt they, joel—-well i would`nt say they are wrong..so JESUS said himself, and if you never learn anything else, JESUS SAID IF YOU WILL NOT CONFESS ME BEFORE MEN, NEITHER WILL I CONFESS YOU BEFORE MY FATHER AND HIS HOLY ANGELS…so when joel told King he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on JESUS, that was the wrong answer, the right answer is, yes you absolutely have to believe on JESUS, and if you don`t, you have no eternal life..that`s as simple as one can make it, and it is the truth…so in truth joel denied the only begotten son of GOD….but yes i love joel and his whole family, it`s the error of his teaching that i don`t go along with b/c it`s not the truth of GOD….Joel also teaches his followers that if they say something long enough it will happen, this is nonsense at it`s best….i have nothing against joel or anyone else, it`s just that i won`t condone what GOD condemns, so truth is GOD don`t put any stock in anyone who will not confess his son JESUS. what puzzles me is people say they are christian, but they will listen to a teacher who won`t stand up for ( JESUS ) the very reason the person is going to church to start with, anyone that can explain this is better than i am, i don`t get it..GOD BLESS YOU AS WELL.
I meant to ask you Heather, why do you believe Joel?, or for that matter anyone else, who says they don`t know if people are wrong for not believing on JESUS, why can you not see this is in error? i mean you said you are christian, but you listen to a teacher who would`nt stand up for JESUS. just wondering dear..GOD BLESS.
If i sounded harsh Heather i sure did`nt mean to b/c you seem very sincere, and i`m sure like everyone else you are having your problems, with the conditions of the world, it would be my prayer, that only the best for you…And yes people talk about joel`s money, but i assure you he has his share of problems also, money is not the answer to peoples problems, we both know GOD is our only real hope.GOD BLESS.
Scott people do know the teaching is wrong, but people who listen to this kind of teaching, to them, these preachers are like movie stars or singers to them, even though their teaching is wrong, when you say something about the teaching, it`s like you said something about their favorite entertainer, so they are gonna stick up for their idol right or wrong, these preachers with false doctrine have a hold on these people that they can`t break free of, they don`t have their eyes on God, but rather they have their eyes on a mortal being that can`t even save their on self, let alone them. we have a simple choice, the Bible says who will you offend?, man or God? so when a person defends a teacher like this they are putting the created above the creator, and that`s all their is to it, you can say yea but this,and yea but that, and they give to children, and they help the aged, and on and on it goes, but until you make a stand for Jesus it don`t matter what we do,until we put the creator above the created we are just wasting our time, we would be just as well off joining Jims bingo hall, or some fancy country club. Lord Bless Everyone.
I’am sorry Scott if I seemed rude also. I didn’t mean it that way, I guess when i first read the web site it just kind of hit me wrong lol I didnt know people felt this way, I don’t have the internet at home and I guess I just assumed that everyone liked Joel. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that so I didn’t mean to sound snappy, I apologize:) I can’t really justify anything that Joel has said or will say I feel in my heart he trully loves God. I enjoy listening and watching his sermons he is a good motivational person, he has a way of always making you value yourself, I like that. I want to say something to Marlyn. not to sound rude but Joel does not have me blind sighted and just because I enjoy his sermons doesn’t mean I’M ONE OF HIS FOLLOWERS you make it sound like a cult thats nuts! And I most definately do not put the created before the creator, you have me all wrong and until you know me I don’t think you should judge because you read what I wrote the way you wanted it to sound and if you were not talking about me than i apologize and forget everything I said. I just wanted to make myself clear if you were referring to me.GOD BLESS
i just read one thing you wrote and i totally agree that anyone who would not stand up for Jesus in wrong. I didn’t hear him say that (not saying that he didnt). I like Joel because he is so positive, he makes me feel good about myself and helps me learn better ways to do things. When he preaches, I see scripture on the bottom of the tv as he says it, so I know thats true, lol. I guess everyone has there corks no one is perfect. I understand what you are saying and I respect that. I’m glad we got to know one another you seem very nice:) I wish you the best in life and i hope God blesses you in everything you do:)
Thank you Heather for the kind words…..GOD BLESS YOU AS WELL.
Yeah for you!!
It is so great to have someone expose this so-called man of God. I have often wondered if he might be a man of god, small g ( the bible refers to Satan as the god of this world.) I have tried to tell people that I think at best, he’s a motivational speaker, and in my book, not a very good one. I am a Christian and I actually read and study my bible and I believe if you took a survey, you would find that most Christians don’t. They are more than happy to accept what someone like Joel Olsteen tells them because it feels good. What happened to the truth and integrity of God’s Matchless word.? God’s word clearly tells us in Romans 10:9&10 how you are SAVED!No one gets to God or to heaven except by way of our Lord Jesus Christ, our living lord and returning Savior, PERIOD!!!!
Thank-you for your website and that I finally found a place to vent my total repulsion concerning this Joel Olsteen!!
The big problem is, (and i`m anything but perfect) Lois Joel was on Larry King and when king asked joel, joel said he did`nt know if people were wrong fornot believing on the only begotten son of GOD, JESUS..he also teaches his followers that if they say something long enough, it will happen, how foolish is that? name it and claim it theology, it`s as foolish as this word of knowledge movement,they say, i just had a word of knowledge, there is a woman out there with breast cancer, well lady i want you to know GOD is healing that cancer right now, and on and on it goes, and there really are people that buy into this foolish practise, bless their heart i guess they just can`t see through this teaching…but the believer won`t lose their reward, b/c they acted in faith, but the con that laid this trip on them is the one that`s gonna be in trouble on judgement day…
You really don’t know what your talking about, if you infact watch his broadcast he never asks for donations and how dare you insult a person that does infact talk about GOD and reading of the bible and puts it into text that all generations may understand, you are very detached from GOD and what Joel Osteens messages he is getting across to all people. No, he is not GOD and maybe he doesn’t have degrees in the Bible but you having this Web Page says a lot your work must be of the Devil to publish such nonsense. Don’t be a hater all your life get right with GOD.
That Joel is a slick little pickel head aint he, Joel do you know the where abouts of tyrone flemming, we`re sorta worried his chixens might have turned on him and eat him for luch, last account i had of that boy he was hidding out in joels basements, maybe he and his chixens have returned from the south….tyrone don`t you let them chixens mess up joels basement….
the whole purpose of the bible isnt to preach. the whole purpose of the bible isnt to learn history. the importance of the bible is to live a better life.
the bible is not a historical document. the bible isnt something to be taken literaly.
scams or not, the only logial way to “preach” isnt trying to shove nonsence into your head, but to TEACH what the bible TEACHS. life lessons and etc.
Wow! I can not believe what I am hearing here. Perhaps those of you in doubt should try listening to a Joel Osteen speech and actually hear what he is saying. It is a message of hope and of inspiration. His ministries are not meant to substitute or replace the bible, just as no church is meant for that. One of the core beliefs of the Christian faith is to have a personal relationship with Jesus. Joel is getting people interested in the Christian faith… he is planting that seed, but it is up to us to live by the words. Every week Joel offers examples, scriptures and so on about living a spiritual life. Live the life… walk the talk. What he is doing is connecting people to God. No one is forced to donate, no one is tricked into giving money. In fact he doesn’t even ask for donations from his podcasts or tv broadcasts. Joel speaks very inspiring messages and he is very good at it, and any time someone is successful they want to bring them down. That’s media, that’s the big story that all journalist want so they can have their name on the front page. Look at the facts though. Here is a man whose message is about hope and inspiration. Here is a man that is helping people improve their lives (who has reported Joel has made their life worth?… who?) Here is a person that is doing what he can to spread the word of God. In my eyes that is a good thing.
Jeff said we should try to listen, that`s just it jeff, we did listen, and you not only can listen, you can listen and see, joel told L King on this web site, he said to King, well i would`nt say people are wrong for not believing on JESUS, yea it`s on this web site, scroll back and find it……….Mr Eric said to not take the BIBLE literaly, well if you don`t take it literaly, you would be just as well off to read the funny papers……….Miss Marie says we ought to watch his telecast and see he does`nt ask for money, forget money, marie you should watch the clip on this site where joel clearly tells L King he does`nt know if people are wrong for not believing on JESUS, you people don`t even know what your talking about, GOD owns all the money anyway, he says he owns all the cattle on a thousand hills, he is trying to tell you he owns everything………..But when you go on the most watched talk show in the world and say, well larry i would`nt say people are wrong for not believing on JESUS, i mean wake up, he just denied the only begotten son of GOD. so people who deny JESUS are not from GOD, makes one wonder what GOD you people serve….JESUS SAID IF YOU WILL NOT CONFESS ME BEFORE MEN, NEITHER WILL I CONFESS YOU BEFORE MY FATHER WHITCH IS IN HEAVEN..so he inspires you and makes you feel good, he is a motivational speaker for CHRIST sakes, but he still has a chance, all he has to do is tell the world, hey look world, hey look people, i`m in grave error, yes you do have to believe on JESUS to be saved, and i`m deeply sorry for what i said, if you don`t believe on JESUS you don`t and you won`t have eternal life….JESUS said those who don`t believe are already condimned, it don`t get any simpler than that, may not be what you want to hear, but it is the truth, and i know there are gonna be people that will defend their hero preacher till JESUS returns, but when he does return it will be interesting to see whitch one they run to.. I bet you know the answer. GOD BLESS.
does anyone know the where a bouts of tyrone flemming, getting sorta worried about him…..halloween is comming up tyrone and i got some work for you, what do you charge to haunt a house, 3 bedrooms and two baths, write me and let me know, o ps you can`t bring your chixens cuz they might leave me a package in the middle of the floor, let me know…