SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
By the way, the man arrived with a dead infant, and left the healing crusade with a dead infant, hard to believe someone could be this cruel, lead someone to believe you have seen the dead raised, this mans heart was ripped out when this Baby died, j o has more money in his watch pocket than you people have in your bank.
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he is a false teacher.a faith an prosperity teacher.uses scripture completely out of context.like joyce myers same old same old to fleece the flock.he believes in faith in faith not faith in god.
Joel is gay and I know someone that did a threesome with him and his violent wife. Joel has a very small penis and my friend took care of his wife while toothy watched. Make sure you sheeps send them your money while your kids go hungry…… cAN you say phony?
Let me just warn all you people (who say hateful things about ministers) what it says in the Word. In case you don’t (read your Bible) then you wouldn’t know that “Jesus” IS the WORD of God.
God warns EVERYONE of this: “TOUCH NOT MINE ANNOINTED!”
All of you who say all of these horrible things about Joel Osteen are walking a thin line.
What makes me think he’s annointed, you ask? Well let me ask you all a question. What makes you think he’s not?
Do you people want to act like God, and make that decision?
The ONLY ONE who truly knows the heart of Joel, and YOU…is God Almighty. I for one, will NOT say one negative word about any preacher, because they are God’s annointed.
And, I refuse to have to stand before God on judgement day, shaking in my shoes, and have to answer to Him, why I slammed his annointed, when He specifically warned me (and you)…not to do that!
Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Baker and other ministers who have sinned, have missed the mark, but here’s the thing. WE ALL MISS THE MARK! We are all human, and yes minister’s are human and make mistakes too.
If a minister makes a mistake, and goes before Jesus and asks for His forgiveness, then God is faithful and just, to forgive him for his sins, so who are you people to say things about ministers, when Jesus has ALREADY FORGIVEN them?
People who attack God’s annointed, are walking on very dangerous ground with God.
I remember one time I was in the hospital, and a nurse came in and asked me what I thought about “that Jim Baker”. I replied: “That’s between God and Jim Baker”.
That nurse just froze in her tracks and didn’t know how to answer me, so she hurried up and left my room. I guess that thought never occurred to her, and from the sound of these posts…it never occurred to some of you either.
People who act all righteous, and point their fingers at minister’s, had better ask the Lord to forgive them of their own sins first!
I find that ironic. People, make sure to point out other people’s sins, when their own lives are “filled to the brim, with sin”.
As for this website, I find it repulsive and offensive.
Some of you have never read the Bible, and maybe never even cracked the cover, so how would you know, if what any minister is saying is true or not?
How can anyone accuse Joel or any other minister of doing wrong, when maybe he is doing exactly what it says to do, in the WORD! How would you know?
Take the “tree out of your own eye”, before you go telling someone else about the “sliver” they have in their eye.
Anotherwards, make SURE there is NO sin in YOUR life, before you go accusing a minister or anybody else, about the sin in their lives.
I will never visit this website again, but let me tell you this. If you were ignorant of what it said in the Bible, that God said “Touch NOT mine annointed”, you know it now!
And, since you know this, you WILL be accountable to God for your comments, unless YOU ask the Lord for His forgiveness.
One last thing. When a person repents of their sins, Jesus will not only forgive their sins…He FORGETS them too!
Jesus loves us all. He died on the cross for all of us.
It would not surprise me in the least if this post doesn’t get published. Why? Because, I am telling the truth, and because I believe that people who slam ministers, are the only ones allowed to post here. If my post does get published, then my hat goes off to the owner of this site.
It is not Joel Olsteen we should be worried about.
You and your organization are the hypocrites, it is you who sits to judge other people, so in truth, you are the real satin.
check your own soul and shut your damn mouth.
My name is Marty, I posted a blog on this web site about Joel just to degrade his character, I am infected with the HIV and I wish to destroy everyone like Joel Olsteen and his wife because of the hatred I have in my heart for religious people who are going to heaven while I am bound for hell. I am perverted and a child molester.
I know i`m no saint, i`m unmarried and pretty women are everywhere you go, and i look, truth is i think all men except homosexual men look, and think thing`s they should`nt think…….but i think joel gross put this site on here with the video clip of j osteen to show people what is really going on, i mean you can play the clip for yourself where j osteen told l. king he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on JESUS…you don`t have to take someones word for it, it`s on this site for you to see……what am i saying?. stone joel o? no i`m not, joel o is a sinner just like the rest of us, but i tell you one thing you won`t hear me say i don`t know if people are wrong for not believing on JESUS….truth is all men are like teenage boy`s at a football game, standing under the bleachers trying to see what they can see, girl`s, women…..i think even preachers look at pretty women with impure thoughts…….but peole like joel o, b. hinn.. and all these mega star preachers get paid big dollars to tell people what they want to hear, and most of the time it don`t square with the BIBLE……most of what i`ve learned about these super star preachers is from hank hannegraph, the BIBLE answer man, comes on all over the country, i learned from him that td jakes is even being called the next billy graham, imagine that,this guy denys the trinity, FATHER ,SON, HOLY SPIRIT, the next billy graham, i don`t think so….these super star preachers are living mega million dollar lifestyles, sure i`d like to live like that also, but if i`ve gota toy around with GOD to get it, thank`s but no thank`s……
ASIA how do you figure a man is annointed that goes on one of the biggest talk shows in the world and tellS Larry KING he don`t know if people are wrong for not believing on JESUS,GODS SON? sounds like you need to do a little reading, just b/c you call your self a preacher and pay good money to go to siminary don`t mean you are annointed….your title means nothing to GOD WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE YOU DON`T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE WRONG FOR NOT BELIEVING ON JESUS….
ASIA i`ve been studying the BIBLE for 20 years, and i don`t care if it was my 38 year old son, if he said he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on JESUS, i`d say well son you better be finding out real quick…b/c you do…..
ASIA you said what makes one think j osteen is not annointed? simple, on the LARRY KING show he told king he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on JESUS, a child can see this is bad theology….
MARTY i`m deeply touched by your post, you can be forgiven of anything you`ve ever done wrong, you can hide in the deepest jungle on the earth, but GOD can still find you and say to you, my child your sins are forgiven……you make it to heaven, the hiv thing is a very simple thing for GOD to fix, although it cant`t be cured by the smartest minds on planet earth, it is nothing for GOD to deal with, heaven, a place where the lame leap for joy and the blind eye will see, pretty nice place um……hope i see you there MARTY, you are very special to GOD…..
While I agree with you on many points about Joel Osteen, the fact is he does have a large audience attending his church every Sunday.
The most important thing is to pray for Joel so this modern day version of false prophecy ends. Only God reveals the truth to people. Joel needs a rude awakening from the Almighty God to correct him for his fluffy version of Christianity which can be very damaging and can steer people in the wrong direction.
He has the biggest Church in America. Now imagine if he was brought to his knees in recognition of the true and living God? With that revelation, no man can live the same way again.
Joel doesn’t seem to be a Christian to me at this point. He’s a marginal, lukewarm christian which is pretty much not Christian. But pray that he sees the total and complete error of his ways and turns around. He has an audience which can be witness to this change.
I disagree. Pastor Joel Osteen is correct with his biblical teaching on victory and prosperity. If you analyze the scriptures correctly, it is evident that Jesus paid such a huge price on the cross so that we can live life to the full (John 10:10). One reason Jesus came was to destroy the works of the enemy.(1 John 3:8)…..this includes sickness, addiction, etc. If we were destined to remain poor and full of shame then Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross would have had no purpose. This is a mockery of the true value of Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross. Romans 5:19 states: “For just as though the disobedience of one man (Adam) the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man (Jesus) the many will be made righteous”. We are no longer considered slaves to sin and called a “sinner” if we accept that He paid the price for our sins.
You are so off base with these comments. Why does religion always have to be about fire and brimstone to be “right?” If you truly believe in the Bible you will know that what Joel Osteen did on Larry King about condemning sinners is exactly what the Bible tells us to do when Christ is asked about the fate of a female adulteress. “Let anyone among you who is without sin cast the first stone.”
As for asking about believing in Jesus. Who is to say that Christianity is the Alpha religion? As a Christian I believe it is the right religion but it is not for me to say that Budism or Judaism is wrong? Freedom of religion is a basic human right as long as it does not harm another person. I have studied many religions and see similarities across the board and my conclusion is, believing in a higher power is beneficial to the human psychic. So how can it be wrong? When humans have nothing to believe in hope is lost and that is a great tragedy.
As for not going to the seminary – he had on the job training and was recruited by the best head hunter in the universe – God!
My point is this – Let’s stop glorifying the bad in the world and glorify the good. Don’t you think it’s about time that a man of God not be in trouble for something. Personally I find it refreshing and hopeful. So let’s be happy and focus on the positive instead of expecting the bad! Just imagine what a better place the world would be if we all did that. Watching the evening news would certainly be more tolerable!
Now for the cross thing – Though shall not make unto thee any graven image I would think that would include a crucifix or cross after all faith is believing in the unseen.
A message from Africa:The person who wrote this article should take a hard look at his own life- let the first without sin throw stones ! I think you are an athiest or satanist trying your best to manipulate and influence christians into believing thing that’s not true. The devil, or who ever else you might believe in, is not going to sway the MILLIONS !!! of people who listen to Joel and many other like him who’s trying to fight the good fight for God. People are longing for something better than all the ” condemnation and doom” we grew up hearing in church while growing up that did not help us one bit in becomming a better Christian. I pray that God will work in your heart and that He will bless you in such a way that you can not deny that He is THE GOD. That you will acknowledge that people doing His work are actually beneficial to our world today.
Hey the guy with the little marty name, you described to a T the priest in the parish I grew up at. You must be familiar with the clergy.
Ross you say j osteen has a large following, well i`m not saying for a moment that j osteen or any of his devotees are going to hell, only GOD can judge that, but i will say this, you mentioned a large following at his church……in the book of revelations it says straight is the way and narrow is the gate that leads to eternal life ( Heaven ) and few there will be that will enter there in………but broad is the road and wide is the gate that leads to eternal destruction ( hell ) and many many will enter there in……so just b/c a church has a large congergation don`t mean a thing, thare could be a little country church with a membership of 75 people, and the 75 could be far better off than the 50.000 members……..GOD forbid, and i shutter to think about it, but a lot of people say they are going to the eternal city ( HEAVEN ) but when i read the passage in revelations about the two gates, it tells me that HEAVEN will not be an over populated place, with so many going in at the wide gate….but i tell you what, i sure wish that every human on the earth could enter in at the narrow gate, you would`nt want your worst enemy to go to a place called hell, a place where you scream your gutts out 24–7 for all eterity, people know they are there and they know that GOD is never gonna return for them….GOD BLESS ALL…..
ROSS YOU SAID IT ALL, JUST TURN AND PREACH THE TRUTH, PRAY FOR J OSTEEN………
Tanya if you listen to joel o you will hear him tell his devotees over and over, he says if you say something long enough it will come to pass, and the word of faith teachers teach that you can create your own world just with words, this is not true, if you believe that, the next time your check book is $200.00 short, just keep on saying it will be there when the bill man knocks, there is so much deception, some people who don`t know any better are saying that td jakes could be the next Billy Graham, jakes, a person that denys the trinity, that make up the triune GOD HEAD, and he is the next Billy Graham, not that B Graham is any better than any other person, but B Graham don`t deny the trinity, jakes has more hang ups than a dry cleaners, so does b hinn and all that gang, jakes said if you put a $100.00 dollars in the plate and only got back a hundred, you just broke even, he said why did you put it in in the first place? hint hint, to help the CHURCH pay the electric bill and buy tolliet paper and pay the water bill and to supply the fellowship hall. that`s why…but alot of the word of faith teachers like jakes teach give to get, GOD can give you an increase, but it`s not guaranteed like the wof gang tell you, you can`t use GOD as an investment banker, or to tell you what wall street is gonna do…..they teach give to get…the BIBLE also says blessed are the poor, for they shall inherit the earth, blessed is the meek for they shall see GOD. not that the rich can`t make it to heaven, but it does say in the