SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
I love Joel Osteen’s preaching and I don’t think he says anything contrary to the word of God while at it. His focus is giving hope to people and that is a duty and a call for any Christian. Let’s not not be to condemn. If we knew you as much as we know Joel, would we say your faultless? Remove the log in your eyes before you remove a speck on Joel’s eyes if he has any….Let the Lord be the Judge….
I love Joel Osteen’s preaching and I don’t think he says anything contrary to the word of God while at it. His focus is giving hope to people and that is a duty and a call for any Christian. Let’s not be quick to condemn. If we knew YOU(The author of this accusation against Joel) as much as we know Joel, would we say your faultless? Remove the log in your eyes before you remove a speck on Joel’s eyes if he has any….Let the Lord be the Judge……..
Hey Vince, you need to remove the log in your brain. All of you christian phonies are hypocrites and gullible sheep. Get a brain of your own. If there are thousands of different religions out there, what makes you arrogant SOB’S think yours is the only way to “salvation”. If everyone is right, then everyone is wrong. You can’t have it both ways in your little fantasy world. Remember, the earth is around 6 billion years old. The Catholic church scam, and the off shoots, sprang up 2000 years ago. Was Jesus hiding all those years? The fat boy, phony, John Haggee was correct about 1 thing, the Catholic Church is the biggest whore there is. All of you other phony off shoot christians are right behind. You are all fools. Make sure you tithe extra today! Alot of these phony snake oil salesman and there wives need to get their botox treatments. As a closer, to all you Dad’s, tell your kids at a young age what a crock of shit this religion shit is. This way, they will be free of all of the constraints, (and the constant begging) that this man made contrivance includes. I got to go, Mother Angelica is on: I think she is trying to sell one of her used snot rags.
Happy Fathers Day!
You are so far off on Joel. He speaks of God repetatively in all his sermons.
How dare you slander a warrior for Christ and soldier of God.
Joel is very self inspirational but always under the context of what can do and has done. He teaches God’s abundant love and ability and Joel carries this message in laymens terms so that we will further believe all things are possible thru Christ Jesus who strengthens me.
I pray that God have mercy on your soul for writing this article. You don’t have to like him but you certainly don’t have to slander him.
I hope I never cross your path because by the name of God I will absolutely slaughter you.
Sincerely,
Scott Golden
Birmingham, Al
Hey Marty – you are such a lost idiotic soul. :owever, you are right – religions cause problems but the the thing that youer minescule life experiences and intelligence cankt fathom is a belief in something higher than yourself. My girlfriend is a lot like you. Lol. Both of yall are bitches and self absorbed.
Try faith Marty. Forget religion. Try believing try the separation of faith and religion , although the the one leeds to the latter and they both lead to the ladder.
I hope you don’t wait til ur deathbed to lea3n the difference. You seem like you are living a life full of hate? So what if their wives get botox? A little interest in personal looks is a bad thing? Huh, If they become a bit superficial with appearance, so what? Ythey are not perfect. Only Jesus was. We al fall short of the glory of God.
There’s a book a want you to read. It’s called the “B I b l e”. Its relatively inexpensive and even someone with your learning disabilities can follow and comprehend (that means to understand) the parrables mentioned in this awesome book. And. If you don’t know how to read yet, then just watch Joel Osteen:)
I need to go now or Ill b late for my Dr. Aptmnt to get sized up for my calf implants. They certainly will make my legs look more Proportioned plus if you pop off at me like the you did the guy before me. They will add leverage after I goggle you, find you and kick off in your ass!
Scott Golden
You do not need a degree to preach the Word of GOD, you do not need theologie school degree to preach the Word of GOD.
Theologians are worker who graduate from school to be hire in churches to preach.
must of them do not believe what they teach. They work as teacher like any school teacher. They teach to the audience as state in the policy of that specific group management. That is why must of them are in many scandale.
I have spend many years investigating churches I will tell you here Joel is the best amount any faith teacher I have investigated so fare. His message is Holy, may be himself he do not know the Holy Spirit is use him to evangelise the world follow him if you will like my conseil. listen to his message he is a model of intructors of this generation that churches need to follow.
Let me be claire Joel is the best Preacher for now. I have listen to must of preacher that broadcast on TBN.
Any one reading this message please follow Joel step you are in good hand thank you may our Holy Father Bless any reader of this message thank you (Evangelist Without Borders mobil Staff remarks and opinions)
Hey Scotty Dog, instead of spewing a bunch of garble like all your preacher friends do, explain to me what happens to all the people who never knew JC or beleived in a different god? Are they all going to “hell”. Answer me that question. And what about the billions of people who lived prior to inception of your little scam, are they all going to “hell”. Ive never quite had that one explained real clearly to me. You need religion like a drunk needs a railing to hang on to. Screw you tough guy. Your girlfriend is much to smart for you goofy.
One more thing Scotty Dog, I have an MBA and a degree in Chemistry, and I do know how to read. Are you saying I should read that fiction book called the “bible”, the one written 400 years after JC died? No thanks, been there, done that, makes no fricking sense. I would like to know your opinion of some of the other “preachers and doctors” on TBN. Cref, Copeland, Parsley, Haggee, Paula White (she’s hot), The queer wizard Paul Crouch and his pink/blue/purple/ haired wife Jannie Fae? Benny Hinn, Jentzen Franklin. and on and fricking on…………. these people need to get real jobs and add to our economy. I like your tough Christian talk, real “christian of you, phony! I live in California, meathead. What part of Texas are you from?
I just saw Joel Osteen live about three months ago…he definitely talked about God, most of the sermon and the worship singers, worshipped God in song, as well.
I have no idea who you are, and frankly I don’t want to. however they talked badly about Jesus, so what makes the world think, that Joel Olstein won’t get talked about or any other mega preacher. “Principles before Personality”. Joel Olstein has made me aware of how much God has forgiven me for all the drugs and alcohol I did and all the times I have gone to jail, or hurt my family. He does talk about God all the time, you need to listen, however you atheists will find any reason to rebuke God or find something negative to say. Joel Olstein is just another one of your excuses to not believe. Why don’t you stop being so afraid to admit you just don’t believe in God. What are you afraid of. You have nothing lose to believe in God. I know, He has changed my life. Christians aren’t perfect just “Saved” I dare anyone to just give God 100% of their life and I guarantee you will never be the same. People are so quick to believe in some crazy story that we evolved from monkeys, or how many lines on your hands means how many kids you will have or how long you will live. Or go to some psychic to predict the future. But you won’t believe in the very One that put you here. Those other gods won’t be there for you when your car is getting ready to go off the side of the road and hit a tree, yet if you yell out Jesus help me and suddenly the car swerves and misses, that’s Jesus. Even if you refuse to believe, don’t hate. Hate is why the world is in the state it is in. Why can’t people get along. And anyway, why are you so obsessed with Joel Olstein, is your own house not in order. I will pray for you. You have much hate in your heart. I clean house for a lady that is an atheist and believes in evolution and thinks I am stupid for believing in God and the Bible, however her life sucks, she is on drugs (speed) daily, her house is a wreak like her and she tweeks constantly and now has cerosis of the liver. Since she refuses to believe, where is the hope? She has none. My life works for me and I am happy and she doesn’t get that.But I push beyond her opinion of me and I do my job to the best of my ability. I forgive her and pray for her. I don’t have to work for her, but I am women enough to put “Principle before Personalities”. People need to grow up and except others for who they are even if they don’t agree.
Hey Starr, if you are so Christian, isnt it a little hypocritical to be working for an atheist, drug addict? What happened to your “principles before personality”? You contradict yourself. I’m glad God has forgiven you, but you have a snowballs chance in hell of getting any kind of real job with your past. I didnt beleive in any fake god and I didnt go to jail (several times) and cause undo stress for my family. How many tattoos do you have?
So you’re an authority on who’s saved? If I recall correctly you’re missing one verse in the above rant and it goes something like this: “Judge not lest ye be judged”. And then there’s the whole thing about removing the spike out of your own eye before pointing out the spike in others. Buy hey, nothing wrong with yanking Bible verses and editting transcripts in order to suit your own purposes.
Jealousy is so ugly! I’m listening to a podcast my Joel Osteen right now, and I’ve heard him REPEATEDLY talk about God. Are you deaf? or just blinded by your own self seeking ambitions?
I have 3 comments to the article you wrote. First there are a number of mega church pastors and telaministries that have a honorable reputation and are trustworthy. To name a few I think of Rick Warren and his famous purpose driven life book and studies; what about Robert Schuler and the Crystal Cathedral, and James McDonald of Harvest Chapel with over 40 churches across America. Many others come to mind ant they are Upright people dedicated to spreading the word of God.
Second,I have watched Joel’s broadcast over the past 3 years and believe that he is improving greatly in his tying his messages to scripture. There is no doubt that he focuses on the positive and leaves out a lot of the negatives that are equally valid, but in this world of cinacism and doubt, it is a breath of fresh air to spend some time focusing on the positive. I believe that the Lakewood Ministry will be blessed because every broadcast service ends with the proclomation that one can be saved by turning their life over to Christ, and then suggest that the listener find a bible based church to attend. Tyhis is the message that we are commanded to proclaim, and Joel is doing it.
Third, we live in a socity that loves to find falt with anyone that is successful, and if falt isn’t enough than a goood lawsuite will be attempted. So many are living a life that is hostal toward people that have attained financial success. I am sure that it will be found that the case regarding Joel’s wife has little foundation and is just an attempted money grab.
Many famous church leaders have strayed and most have had to pay the price of loosing their ministry, their congregation, and have to live out their life with guilt and shame. God tells us we can be forgiven of any sin when we repent, but also tells us we will have to suffer the consequences that the sin caused. Remember that just because some of the preachers of the faith have fallen in to major sin, does not meen their preaching was in error, It means their self-control was week, not their theology. Every Christian knows that if we don’t control every negative impulse by saying NO, we to can be led down a slippery path of sin. Satin is good at tricking us, we must all stand allert to his trickery.
Hey Wes, is that the same Robert Schuler who dresses up in a Halloween costume and who fired his OWN SON! No, there is no dysfunction there, is there? Perhaps you and Wes and Starr can have a prayer meeting and tithe some more money to the snake oil salesman you so ferventley support..
Bush/Diablo
Whom ever wrote the comment about Joel does not talk about God; does not even have a clue. God is a up lifting, positive, wonderful faith that helps the every day happening that everyone should be involved with. Not a regretful next day. I’ve never ever recall Joel requesting donations from anybody and I have been watching every since the first time he wore his father’s suit and walked in his fathers shoes. I pray that whom ever you are that your eyes are opened and that your ears can hear what that Joel is teaching.
Sincerely,
I just read ur blog on pastor joel osteen. he is a good speaker though yes. he may also have his shortcomings, possible. but i dont think it is in ur place to judge. more or less bridge it to public like the internet. wat do u expect those that are not saved to say about we christians. remember paul made mention of this kind of a matter. if pastor joel was to be ur bro. and u notice his shortcomin will you try to create a scandal for him or you would bear him up in his weakness.
you would do better to send him a personal mail, than tryin to drag his ministry to the mud. remember the bible says that we being many are one bread. when u have a sore in ur foot, the problem is at the foot but the whole body carries the pain.
bro, i know ur intentions are good and its like ur knowledge of God is being aggrieved, but i think u should be careful wat u do to the BODY OF CHRIST. Perhaps its not your place to judge. rem. touch not my annointed and do my prophet no harm,… not even with ur pen.
for the records i think joel osteen talks bout God in his messages, just listen with ur hearts without guards
LOL…..I am sitting here thinking to myself how the bible tells us that one of the main things that children of God lack most in is there lack of knowledge. There disbelief. So it doesnt surprise me to see why you have taken this time to try and destroy one of his children whom he has called in this position. As most believers you have understanding and revelation..we all know that satan is a liar..The father of lies. You spend time talking about someone else and maybe need to spend more time asking for answers and revelation , and understanding to the word of God..because it is eveident that you do not have it. And I would like to ask you a question?..Have you ever watched Joel olsteen. From begining to end. His whole sermon is based on God. Gods word. Every preacher has a different swag in how they preach, some scream some.straight to the point and some are motivational , all in the same.Just are different.just as you may be different than many people.Take a word of advice. Watch what you say.You might just be wrong, and when one tries to tear down a child of God who God put in that place. God tells us all,He will prepare a table before our enemies. So you may be coming to dinner soon..Repent my brothern.Peace and blessings……
Hi i was reading this page and even though I do not watch Joel Osteen I was wondering who you are and what makes you sush a expert on passing Judjement upon this man and others what good have you done. Please explain your twist on the truth to me so that I can check you out to see were you got your great knowledge from thank you.
Sincerly
Sandr Prater
To sandra from sunny calif. when j. o. was on the king show, he told king he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on JESUS, gee wonkers if we don`t have to believe on JESUS then why do we say we are believers, believers in what? if j/ o. had given the right answer, yes mr. king we have to believe on JESUS, he might have won king to the lord, b/c king his wife was a believer, but king said show me the evidence that JESUS exist.
David and Sandra, you 2 should take a writing course from Joel. You both write like 2nd graders. You are idiots as well, if you beleive all that mumbo jumbo JC crap…………