SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
Looks like some of you people need to learn how to compose a sentence. Also, your spelling and grammar is terrible. However, all this tells me is that many people can’t use logic (muchless the English language) to defend or oppose anything. Most of the responses are nothing more than bowel movements in print. Learn to write or shut the hell up!
Ray, is muchless a word? Wouldn’t it be “much less”? Are you a Bush supporter? You speak like him.
Ah Ray, you lost all your credibility. You should use spellcheck, simpleton, especially if you are going to rip others use of grammer. Now you are a Bush supporting, bible thumping, name calling idiot. Much less is the correct way to spell it.
Sooooooo, shut the hell up!!!
Read my comments on Osteen again Marty and tell me if they fit the description of a Bush supporting, bible thumper. How did you come to the conclusion that I fit in the idiot category because I mispelled a word? If you are going to attack me because you don’t like my comments of August 14, 2009 regarding grammer and logic etc., then at least don’t add nonsense to it. You don’t know anything about my politics, or religious beliefs or anything else, and yet you start yapping about Bush supporters etc. What the fu-k do my comments about grammar have to do with Bush supporters and bible thumpers? Read my comments about Osteen again and tell me if they apply to Bush supporting bible thumpers. Also, I don’t see much if anything from you regarding Osteen. Where are your comments? Did I miss them? Since we are exchanging insults, have a shi–y day ass—e!
My God, I screwed up royally. Marty will really get me now. Please change grammer to grammar.
Marty
“u r my kind of gal Tabitha! Expose these snake oil salesman” and “you go Billy, you psalm 52 fool you!” are simply brilliant essays. Hey Marty, are they yours? If so, just wanted you to know how impressed I am. I’m looking for more of these high quality literary masterpieces. If you wrote them Marty, you must be a genius. I hope you wrote them Marty. Your command of the English language is absolutely overwhelming.
Much less Much less Much less x 1,000. Hey Marty, How am I doing? Will you check this for me? Spellcheck scares me Marty. Please, will you check this for me. I knew you would Marty, because you are MY spelling guru forever!
Ray, have you tried Prozak?
WELL BILLY IS PROUD TO REPORT, YES I`M A BIBLE THUMPER, AND YOU WILL WISH YOU WERE WHEN YOU STAND AT THE JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST……….THERE ARE 4 PROFESORS ON THE WEB THAT HOLD ALL KINDS OF DEGREES, TWO OF THEM ARE DOCTORS, THEY WERE ATHEIST, THEY DIED, THEY WERE CLINICALY DEAD, THEY SAID THE GLIMPSE OF HELL WAS PURE TERROR, THEY WERE GIVEN A GLIMPSE OF HELL……..THESE MEN HAVE MORE INTELLECT IN THEIR LITTLE FINGER NAIL THAN YOU GUYS HAVE IN YOUR ENTIRE BODY……ONE OF THESE MEN HAVE HIS OWN CHURCH IN CHICAGO, HE COULD HAVE MADE MORE MONEY FOLLOWING HIS ORIGINAL PLAN, BUT AFTER AN ENCOUNTER WITH JESUS HE KNEW WHERE HE BELONGED, PREACHING THE GOSPELL………SO ARE YOU GONNA DIE PSALM 53 FOOLS? OR ARE YOU GONNA SEE THE TRUTH? THIS DOCTOR HAD FAME, MONEY, HE WOULD PARTY WITH MOVIE STAR`S, SINGERS, HE HAD ALL THE MONEY HE WANTED, DRUGGS, ALCOHOL, WOMEN,AND HE SAID NONE OF THIS MADE HIM HAPPY, HE WENT ON TO SAY, THE ONLY REAL HAPPINESS IS FOUND IN JESUS, HE SAID IT`S REAL EASY TO BE AN ATHEIST WHEN YOU HAVE EVERYTHING MONEY CAN BUY, HE SAID BUT IT`S VERY HARD TO BE AN ATHEIST WHEN YOU ARE LAYING AT DEATHS DOOR…….HIS TESTIMONY WAS THE BEST I`VE EVER HEARD……,HIS NAME IS DR. WHITAKER, I FOUND HIM ON THE WEBB, AND I`M SURE GLAD I DID, HE WAS GONNA BE A PSALM 53 FOOL, BUT GOD TURNED HIM AROUND………SO I WOULD CHOOSE MY WORDS MORE CAREFULLY BEFORE I CALLED SOMEONE A BIBLE THUMPER, YOUR INTELLECT IS SHOWING, YOU ARE NOT VERY WISE, BUT YOU ARE STILL ALIVE, AND AS LONG AS YOU ARE ALIVE YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE, BUT WHEN THEM EYES CLOSE FOR THEIR FINAL CURTAIN CALL, YOU WILL WISH TO GOD YOU HAD LISTENED TO SOMEONE WHO TRIED TO TELL YOU ABOUT JESUS, BUT IT WILL ALL BE OVER FOR YOU MY FRIEND, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE, BETTER TAKE THIS ONE………..
Now i don`t buy into thing`s that joel o say`s, i don`t watch him, but i did stop on the channell he was on to see what he woul say……….he told of a man that received a big check in the mail, check just showed up at his house, this is typical of word of faith teachers, i even heard him preach on an anointed frogg, really………..they teach you can create your own world just by repeating thing`s over and over, if you say it long enough, it will come to pass, how foolish, try saying that when your check book don`t balance, the money is there, the money is there, the money is there, i assure you that you will say that until your tongue falls off, and your check book will still not balance………so the wof teachers are not really from GOD, they are priming the pump to get your money, some say make a vow of a thousand dollars, crouch say`s three thousand dollars, so you get more for your money with him b/c he charges more, lol……….but if you get in a good BIBLE based CHURCH where the truth of GOD is taught, you won`t be sorry……….most of these teachers know what people want to hear, health and wealth, so they take full advantage of this, they prey on people that don`t know genesis from revelations, shame on these teachers for taking advantage of these people, makes me glad i`ve been studying for 25 year`s……..but the air ways are full of these false teachers, and more comming on every day, if you study, they can say 20 word`s and you can spot them………..some of these wof teachers don`t ask for anything, when they get through priming the pump they don`t have to ask, people just turn their money over to them…….GOD BLESS……ps you guys stop bickering at one another and stop being psalm 53 fools…..
Boy you can tell ole ray and marty ain`t got no education by the thing`s they say……..they are probably ole hairy legged truck drivers with green teeth………only dummys would say some of the things they have said, i bet they are from arkansas, or mississippi.
Joel Osteen inspires me to get closer to God, so now I read my Bible more, pray with more faith. Sorry that you dont feel the way, but only GOD can Judge who is real and who is not.
mr garcia said osteen inspired him to be closer to GOD, osteen is`nt even close to GOD himself, he denied GOD`S son JESUS on the larry king show, how do you follow a person like that? your dead wrong you can judge, GOD infact wants you to judge, when someone denies GOD`S son, he wants his true followers to sound the alarm…..and osteen on the king show denied JESUS……
The responses on Joel Osteen have been real interesting. I’m sure everyone has noticed a trend to vilify those who are not fans of Osteen. In the meantime, those who support Osteen’s ministry will continue to do so. It will make little difference to them what anyone thinks about Osteen on the negative side. After all, Osteen is their “guru”. Those who oppose their “guru” will be branded as “demon possessed agents of Satan” no matter what they say.
In the end, Osteen will fade away because someone else will come along with a more appealing message. Either that, or there will be some sort of scandal within Osteen’s organization. Even then, a majority of his followers will stand by him even during a scandal. In any event, Osteen is a product of American culture. Among other things, he’s a religious super star preaching nice things in a sports arena. Right now he is on a winning team. What could be more American than that? The truth of the matter is that Christianity in the United States has developed into a circus. It’s all about entertaining people and making them laugh while telling them how great they are. In many ways it has become a racket.
With that said, Osteen,(a Protestant so to speak), will never be able to outdo the Catholic Church. That outfit beats them all when it comes to inventing things to keep people “interested.” For one thing there is always the Pope no matter what. If things get boring, the Holy See can (and does) jazz things up, with anything from visions of Mary to someone getting the stigmata. Another outfit that keeps packing them in is the Latter-day Saints or Mormons. Osteen will never be able to outdo them.
If you want a “quiet” religion, then Islam, whose followers are called Muslims, is just the thing. Unfortunately, that religion has temporarily been taken over by nut cases. But if you go in a mosque all you will see are people praying. Muslims actually get down on their knees and pray, while Christians talk about it. Of course all of this is worlds away from a session with Joel Osteen’s crowd. Another thing you don’t see in mosques is people walking around visiting, organs blasting away, and women attracting the men with short skirts and lots of cleavage. Mosques are actually houses of worship and not religious social clubs.
The main point to remember about religion in the United States is that freedom of religion breeds people like Osteen, and allows Roman Catholicism to exist, and the Mormons to prosper. However, we also have freedom from religion, which means we can sleep in on Sunday mornings, and choose to believe in whatever we want.
In closing, if you do not like what I have said, then write an intelligent rebuttal, but don’t attack me personally because you don’t agree with me or like what I say. Since this blog is about Osteen, then tell me and others exactly what is is that you like or don’t like about Osteen. Let’s throw out the yapping about Osteen makes me feel good and he will make you feel good too. The premise is: What specifically is it about Osteen’s ministry that I am suppose to like? OR, what is it about the Osteen ministry that is phony and so on.
Hey Phillip out there. How are you doing old buddy?
Listen, I don’t want you to get the wrong ideas about me. I’m not from Arkansas or Mississippi, but I am hauling rig out of Slidell, Louisiana. I’m a neo-Redneck, and I don’t have any of my teeth left. However, my dentures are the pearliest you will ever see. I am originally from Oklahoma and was raised with strong beliefs in Football and Jesus.
I don’t know anything about Marty, but I suspect he is a neo-Hippie with his index finger up his ass, smoking pot in Santa Fe.
Hey Marty! Buenas dias amigo.
Listen, I have not taken Prozac. Are you a medical doctor? Do you think I should take this drug? Have you ever considered taking (for yourself), a Castor Oil Ice water enema at 3 a.m.? Have you ever thought about a prefrontal lobotomy? Did I spell everything right? I can tell right away that you have a PhD in English? Have you had a bowel movement today? I hope so, because it’s real important to keep regular and all that shit. No pun intended.
Have an exciting day. Adios.
The Bible says Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. While I do not listen to Joel personally it is a mistake to attack him. David was chased by Saul for years and the Lord gave him into his hands twice and David said I will not touch God’s anointed. Now Saul was no longer anointed rather he was demon posessed but David would not touch him. Gamaliel told the Sanhedrin in Acts leave them alone if it is of man’s origin it will come to nothing but if it be of God you may find yourself fighting against God. Whether we agree or disagree with Joel my advice is hands off and get back in the harvest field. That’s our marching orders judgment belongs to Jesus.
James
I read your comments of August 18th, 2009 at 12:16 pm. I disagree with your interpretation of the Bible on this particular matter. We judge this and that every day of our lives, and evangelists and Megachurches should not be off limits. Sooner or later there will be some sort of scandal within Osteen’s ministry. The scandal will not necessarily center on Osteen himself, but could focus on his staff, or something else entirely different we would never expect.
Within the Christian Community (and even outside it) the question should be: Do we need Megachurches at all? However, we know we can not prevent them because we have freedom of religion in the United States. Nevertheless, these huge churches tend to be breeding grounds for brain washing and religious fanaticism.
James, we are being judged all the time by someone every day of our lives. Osteen and his ministry, or any other evangelist always needs to be under the microscope. This is true not only of Osteen but of outfits representing the highly dangerous (in my opinion) Christian Reconstructionist and Dominion Theology Movement. Check them out, and then decide if they would not be happy to judge you and others under Old Testament Law and sentence you accordingly. Scary indeed.
Sorry James, but Megachurches and Televangelists always need to be scrutinized with a “jaundiced eye”. I got the impression from your comment that you might think that people like Osteen are somehow immune from watching etc. because they are in the religion business. Perhaps if those dudes over on Wall Street had been watched more closely, some of this economic “crunch” we are experiencing might have been averted.
Have a good day.
Islam, mormons, are cults..only true faith is the christian faith, JESUS is the only one who made any claim of rising on the third day, and he did. ole green teeth Ray said in one of his sentences, tell me and others, should have been tell others and me. i told you he was an ole hairy legged truck driver. James said touch not thy annointed, how do you figure j osteen is annointed when he went on the larry king show and said he did`nt know if people were wrong for not believing on JESUS? i assure you j.o. or any one else who denies GODS SON JESUS, likes a little bitt being annoined. i still say ole ray and marty are from arkansas or mississippi, use crest tooth paste with baking soda ray, it will get the green off your teeth and make them white again, i still have all my teeth, i water pic, and use the electric tooth brush triumph, the pic and the triumph will set you back &200.00 dollars, well worth the cost to get your teeth sparkling white again. you might even get a girl to kiss you again. ps James, i did hear j osteen speak of an annointed frogg once, that`s no joke, maybe it was kermitt..
Ray, I agree with a lot of what you have to say but why are you such a foul mouthed person? I first responded to you when you told people who didn’t know how to write that they should shut the hell up. At the same post, you spelt the word wrong. Screw you butthead. Yeah, I smoke pot, but it is on the coast of Northern California. We both share the same ideas, but you are a prick and I am not. Take that goofball! Fight with someone else, your angry energy can go a long way in rebutting these fantasy seekers. Priests are fricking strange people.