SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
Jealousy is such a sad trait in anyone. My sympathy is with you.
I think who ever wrote this is on the devils side because God will use people to talk in alot of different ways and what Joel speaks is what alot of people needed to hear or the church would not be so big There will always be someone to downfall instead of up lifting Alot peole dont go to school to be a preacher but they can do God’s work and he is in his own way trying to make people have hope and feel instead of OH AINT LIFE AWFUL THANK GOD AND PRAISE THE LORD FOR JOEL and I don’t even go to church or belong to anything but when I listen to him I feel like a happy hopeful person and who knows I might even grow because of it THANK YOU GOD AND THANK YOU JOEL FOR YOUR PART !!! LYNN
I would like to say even though I am not a church goer that I do believe in God with all my heart That anyone that picks and downs Joel is NOT UNDERSTANDING that GOD will use different people in different ways AND who are you to say who is right or wrong Different people will read anything eeven the Bible and take it differently Let it be up to GOD to judge If he is helping people in his own way let it be you sure aren’t helping anyone but making them feel negative and who says we all have to believe the same way COME ON GET REAL !!!! That is why we have so many problems in the world This country does’nt like that one or another because they believe different then us The middle east hates us because we don’t believe like them Catholis think they are right SDa thinks they are right Its all nonsense The only thing that will get throgh the mess is to LOVE one another and accept each other (unless they are really doing a act or muder or something awful) Keep it up Joel The world needs you U are postive God is using you in a different way LYNN
I appreciate that someone (Christian/nonchristian)is able to see through the deceitfulness of Joel Osteen, and is able back up with scripture. So thank you.
Joel Osteen is preaching the health-wealth-and-prosperity Gospel. There is no such thing. The Gospel is not about Health, wealth, and prosperity.
Nothing about Christianity (Believing in Christ Death and resurrection for your sin and living for him 100%) is easy. In fact, its very hard, but its also a blessing, a joy, and I am able to rejoice in “suffering” knowing that my foundation is in Christ, my hope is in Christ’s return. I would live my life no other way.
Yes, Joel uses Scripture in his message but he uses every SINGLE verse OUT OF CONTEXT. Look at the Hebrew lang. in the OT, and Greek in the NT (which is where we get NKJV, ESV, NIV, English translations of the Bible etc), or just read through the specific chapter that Joel references and you can easily see how he translates every verse completely wrong.
How do you get to Heaven? Simple, but not easy;
Romans 6:23
“For the Wages of Sin is death but the Gift of God is eternal life THROUGH CHRIST JESUS our Lord.”
-We earn (Wages-paycheck) death because of our Sin, but God GIVES us eternal life…through Christ Jesus our Lord.
-Its is only through repentance of our sins and Trust that you can have “eternal life” —>heaven. period. The only way to get to heaven is through Christ! Its a gift! Now we can rejoice in the relationship we have with our Savior Jesus Christ, a relationship that no other religion offers!
You want to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ…read his Word and believe:
“that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” (Romans 10:9)
Rejoicing in the relationship I am able to freely have in Christ.
More insight(Biblical) to the depth of the Abomination of what Joel Osteen preaches in his “prosperity Gospel,”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLRue4nwJaA
I watch Joel on TV and read his one book on inspirational passages and I am moved by him. I still continue to attend my Catholic Church and he directs people to find a good church and attend it at the end of all his programs.
Many churches are just as corrupt…they have all become big business. Joel Olsteen inspires hope and raises peoples spirits…something the Catholic Church does not do for too many people. I hear him mention God and Jesus Christ all the time so I don’t know what you are listening too. I do not send him any money and I don’t give to the Catholic Church either other than a buck or two when I have it. But I think his message is fabulous and he has lifted me out of a depression I have had for the past 8 years.
I feel sorry for the publishers of these articles. But With Success comes Jealousy. I will pray for the people that wrote this.After all, It is not by accident that Joel Osteen has gathered all these loyal supporters. It was his calling. His positive attitude is globally appealing.
I have read Joel’s books and listen to his sermons. I have defended him and his beliefs until I read this interview. Ninety nine percent of what is said is true and wonderful..but 1% is false. You cannot serve two masters. You are a Christian or a sinner and if you are Muslin or Jewish, you have not accepted Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. I “assumed” when Joel holds up the Bible and says every word of it is true..that He believed it. John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me. This scripture is on the list of others that he quotes from God’s Word in his book..yet in his interview with LK he does not say you cannot get to Heaven without acceting Jesus. This makes him a false prophet. I do pray he will go back on larry King and tell the world Jesus is the only way and ANYONE that does not choose HIM is a sinner. He plainly said in his interview we either go to Heaven or Hell. Only the Holy Spirit can draw the sinner..but we must be correct in presenting God’s Word. We are not judging when we say all sinners (those not choosing to accept Jesus Christ as their personel Savior) will go to Hell..not Heaven.
Hi everyone, i really believe that Joel olstein is a faithful servant, trying his best to
reach out to those who are lost. In a lot of ways even with his words of wisdom, with us who believe in Jesus Christ we all should already know who he is referring to.
I actually love to hear Joel speak, he teaches me a lot… and i know that he loves God.. and why i say this is it reminds me a lot of when Jesus was here on earth when everyone already judged him and called him crazy for no reason at all, just remember everyone, the world hated Jesus first.. so any rumors or gossip about anyone, i should know or we should know what satan can really do… Jesus died for our sins… but he did not have to go through the harsh beatings or whips and the spits… Jesus really loved God… and that now i know anyone who is close to God is going to go through a lot… words can really hurt… so we as real followers so really love one another by watching the tongue for it is the most lethal weapon on our body’s…
constant batlle for those who love God always going through some kind of painful trial…. so remember when you really want to serve God well we need to go with LOVE… just a little something i want to share with all of you readers, because i love God and i been spit on and i been through a lot.. i just thank God for helping me realize why. thank you and God bless all of you on the holidays
i cant believe anyone would say such things!!!!!!!!!!leave the judging to God and watch yo own life…………thats what really matters!
?????????????????????? CANT BELIEVE ANYONE WOULD SAY SUCH THINGS!!!!!!!!!!
wow, these comments are just outrageous!!!!!!!!!!!!
i NEVER thought anyone in their right mind would say such cruel things, i happen to attend his church every weekend and he DOES indeed speak about god, its in half the lecture!!!!!!!! wow, and his books, every page, MINIMUM mentions god, or SOMETHING about him, this is ridiculous, ive actually had the honor of meeting him twice now, and he is NOTHING as he is percieved, i truely believe he ISNT any scandal whatsoever, and he is only doing what he feels is right…
everyone who has anything negative to say, … may god bless you, try to attend church one day and maybe things will change!!!!!!!!!!
Joel, you need to get off your judgmental high horse and, if the hate and personal vendetta is so strong in you, will then………..go find another cause to criticize, such as Al Gore, whose made billions perpetuating the big ‘global warming’ scam. I really haven’t followed Joel Osteen’s path or know much about him — however, I recently bought his latest book “It’s Your TIme”. His words are inspirational, have renewed my faith and rekindled my hope. God Bless Mr. Osteen!
I am Christian and have a relationship with God – not religious, spiritual. Joel Osteen is an excellent preacher/teacher. We have several ordained ministers in our church that did not go to seminary, that doesn’t make them any less effective. Actually I feel they are more effective, because they are down to earth and can relate to the same issues I’ve had to deal with. I feel they have more life lessons. It’s unfortunate that Preachers and their families are put under a magnifying glass in everything they say and do. Joel & his family – like every other Christian are critized – we are human just like everyone else – we are not perfect, just forgiven. We should learn from our mistake and always strive to be better and use our wisdom and knoweldge to excel. No one has all the answers on other religions and beliefs and no matter how Joel responded he would not be right in someone’s eyes. Joel Osteen and Lakewood church do a lot of good and will continue to be blessed by God as long as he is doing what God wants him to do. The Bible teaches tithing and giving to help others. Try it, you will see your life change – I did. No one forced me to tithe, it is what the Bible teaches. People that don’t handle God’s money in the proper manner won’t be successful. I understand Joel does not take a salary from the church, how many preacher’s can say that. Sounds like success to me! If you don’t like Joel Osteen, change the channel, no one is forcing you to watch. If you watch, perhaps you can learn something.
I am a born again Christian since April 22, 2009. I have went to many churches and watched many televangelistssince since that time. Joel Osteen is very, very positive and uplifting. He does talk of God, Jesus and quotes many scriptures from the bible. He also gives each viewer a chance to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior before ending each broadcast. No he does not “force” this upon people. He realizes that salvation is a gift from God. There is no “good work” that you can do to earn it and everyone can obtain it. He doesn’t talk much of sin or hell, but that is his perogative. He does, however, speak of letting God lead and direct your life. He tells stories of where God has blessed him, his family and many others and is very interesting to listen to. I subscribe to his daily devotional and have my own daily devotional book that he wrote which was given to me by a friend. I have never spent one dime as far as he goes, but I do tithe at my church which of course is much, much smaller than his, but the bible directs us to give monetarily to the works of God and if people feel the need to send in their money to his ministry, what business is it of yours? I believe that you are just one of the many people who persecute christians, just as the bible tells us will happen and is happening more and more as time goes on.
I think I might send this Osteen guy money just because he is pissing off all of the Christians. “His version of make believe doesn’t follow my version of make believe. Whaaa!! Whaaa!!!” Seriously, how many versions of Christianity are there? And you want to get angry because this guy is creating one more? What is the major complaint? Oh yeah, he is inclusive of too many people. Leave it to the peace loving Christians to get upset because someone is not excluding enough people or damning some other group to hell.
I saw no where you said “JUDGE NOT LEST YOU BE JUDGE”
Joel said:” he and his family live only on the money that he gets from the sale of his books”…
I saw where it was mentioned about the lawsuit against his wife… THAT was settled and proved the woman lied trying to get money from the Osteens.
After reading the story above and the comments made at the bottom I wonder if you ever have listened to him… so many false statements made…
You know our society critizes anyone who is successful. I have watched many of Joel’s sermons and he does preach about God and the Bible. He is just a positive approach preatcher. There are many pastors that did not go to Seminary and are great at it. It is very obvious God gave him a gift and he is using it to glorify God and that is what God commands us to do. He is not judging anyone, unlike you. The Lord tells us to Judge and not be Judge. Joel is a very positive influence in many peoples lives and is making a difference in them. He is bettering our society by encouraging people to help others. What are you doing to better our society other than criticizing a man of God? Look at the log in your own eye before pointing at the splinter in someone elses.
Ok look! I took a class in college called “Sociolog of Religion” and learned about all these guys and Joel Osteen is one of the worst. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES THIS MAN OWNS?!? I am a Christian man and I can tell you that this guy is rotten. He would have to prove to me that he is a man of god for me to believe him. He clears about 60 million a year. I know a lot of people who would decieve people for money. If you believe he is a man of faith then he has decieved you!!
Seriously…You surely have something better to do with your time. In fact, stop raining down on this man, pray for him and invest your time more wisely. Perhaps if you spent less time on this, you could go out and witness to more people. Your daily bread is soggy my friend!
You are so worried about Joel Osteen ministry being false, only aiming the profit money. You are right about most of your points ,however, you should not worry about your TAX DOLLARS. What are you talking about, MONEY !!! I thought you were concerned about all these people being cheated. Instead, your TAX MONEY is more important, isnt it