SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
I am saddened at the fact that you have missed the messages of Joel Olsteen. In these difficult times, he is a ray of sunshine to so many that are frightened and lost. I went to see Joel in person on my birthday last year. He NEVER asked for ONE CENT from us. It cost $10 per person to go the Aneheim Center, which must have cost Joel every cent that we paid. (of course we had to pay parking, etc. to the center). Joel is NOT his wife and you have no right judging him for her personality. No one is perfect (neither are you my friend) and we all make mistakes and need to grow from them. I broke both of my ankles and my leg in half. Then my daugher died. Joel Olsteen came into my home via my television and brought me peach, hope and joy with his smiles and his angelic words. No one else did while I lie in bed for 3 years. I lost all my money and almost lost my house, and Joel Olsteen said things that encourage me to get back into the world and live again. I am now Executive Director of an organization to help young people find their way in life as well as a hormone specialist who teaches other doctors about hormones and I am saving my home. I want you to understand, that if all of us used Joels gentle dialog and god loving smile every day of our lives, this world would be a better place. Joel helped me to realize that I have love in my heart and that if I share it, others receive it. So, if you take a moment to ask the angels to come to you and bring you the joy and sit down and REALLY listen to the positive message Joel has to say, your bitterness, judgement and anger may just go away and you too can walk through life with a smile on your face and love in your heart. God bless you and I thank you for the opportunity for helping me see how important Joel Olsteen has been in my life and how I can share his love and joy with others. Peace be with you, Dr. Rhonda Lyons
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Jesus Christ and most of the disciples did not attend a seminary or had any theological degrees.
For Christians the Bible is the Living Word of God and interpretation of it is by the Holy Spirit; all the theological training in the world would fall short without that Interpreter(The Holy Spirit). After all, the Bible speaks to the wisdom of men and calls that wisdom, foolishness before God!
God told Moses not to worry about what he would say when he got to Egypt. He told moses when that time came that He would put the Words in his mouth.
As far as not mentioning Christ, that is worrisome.
Considering that Jesus said that no one comes to the Father but by me, and there is no other door to come through.
The core of Christianity rests on the promise God made to the Israelites of old, that he would bring His Branch to the world so that He would also be God to the gentiles.
Jesus Christ, a priest and king after the order of Melchidezek became the Lamb of God who took on the sins of the world on the cross.
Free for anyone that has faith that Jesus is the Lamb of God and the Truth and The Way. Faith in this salvation and along with works, doing the Commandments set forth by Christ is Christianity.
Anyone that confesses Me in front of men, I will confess before the Father and anyone that denies Me, I will deny before the Father, said Jesus.
The law rests on these:
1. That we love God with all our hearts and soul
2. That we love one another, our brethren, and our enemies
Concerning the crucifix, the crucifix was not the miracle; it was God’s gift to man via His Holy Son who eventhough the cup was bitter, drank from it, doing not His own will but the Will of The Father.
The miracle was that the Temple, Jesus’es body was raised in 3 days, the promise of resurrection for all those who believe and follow His Commandments.
Jesus didn’t own anyhting but the clothes He wore and those were gambled for when He was nailed to the cross. His Life was already harder than most of us could imagine, not counting His murder.
Jesus never said, pray to me. he said, pray to My Father. He even told the mothers’ of His disciples that it was not given to Him to promise them a seat at His Right Hand in His Kingdom, but rather those were already arranged by His Father.
The point is, that a cross as a symbol to remind us that when we follow Christ, we also lay our old lives on a cross and are reborn, like Jesus told Nicodemus as spiritual babies and we then live in the world but are NOT of it.
Considering that Jesus often held sermons and prayed under the sky, why would a cross mean anything and to some people could be misinterpreted as an idol instead of a symbol, for those who are blind, that is those who do not see with the Spirit.
And this gets back to Mr. Olsteen, a tree is judged by its fruits. When the disciples told jesus that someone else was healing in His name and was not one of them(the apostles, disciples), what should we do to stop him?
Jesus told them, do nothing, let him do it.
But again a Christian Church whether it is in a church or on a lawn or anywhere more than two or three meet, is bound together as spiritual beings written in the Book of Life from the beginning and it’s all because of the sacrifice and blood of the Lamb that washes away our sins.
I just don’t see how it would be possible to leave the the Author, My Saviour out of any Christian gathering for any reason.
while i agree with you that many scriptures say that only Christians will go to heaven, i would like you to think about this; what about the billions of people all over the world who have NEVER heard of JESUS? please read Romans 2 verses 14 and 15.
Why does it matter if he teach people how to be nice to others or if he encourages more than condem. Why is it that we try to find fault in good. He is teaching Love and whats wrong with that? he has people at least acknowledging God thats a big step. I don’t blame him for not condeming other religions because what if one day we find out that a lot of what we believe is wrong? I believe in Jesus and I feel there is a God. I believe that God wants us to Love one another and stop fighting with our fist,guns or words and to embrase our different beliefs so that we as a people can have some type of understanding about who we are and what we are here for.
it’s ashame how the devil works, and exspecially through people! Any time there is someone who can reach out to this messed up world and get the word of God out to so many people, the devil works overtime through people like you. it’s almost funny, joel osteen must scare the hell of him!!!!!!!!!
instead of worrying that there are no crosses hanging in joel osteens church, maybe you should worry about where your own heart is hanging and with whom! you might have to spend eternity with him!
joel osteen is such a man of God, that he would even pray for you! maybe you should seek someone eles to condem if you feel such a great calling to judge and play God! I am very sure satan has alot of friends to intertain your issues on judgement and condeming! In fact satan has a pretty big playground out there, and you have a problem with Joel osteen????? WOW!!! I’ll even pray for you!
Basically he is teaching the Law of Attraction, The Power of Positive Thinking, The Secret….he is just taking credit.
Anyone can reach this concept on their own for free, and get much better results.
The strange thing is, whatever this subject is related to makes millions. Watch The Secret, then go on You Tube, and start trying to disprove it. Then your life will change. Forget this guy though.
what a wet blanket you are(joel the writer)
God works in mysterious ways and if he chooses to use joel to get to the hurting(who may not be SAVED)so be it,,after all,his grace endureth forever.
if i need a bible spitin,demon chasing pastor then i will watch john hagee,Creflo dollar or robertson or billy graham,the list is endless.
this guys works have helped me make some of the most important decsions in life.yes i read the bible,but i get the necessary impetus and need to hustle on when im down by reading joels books.over and over and over again.if i wasnt doing so i would have given up hope a long time ago.and im sure millions agree with me.
i met this millionaire in kenya at the serena hotel and he struck me as one of the humblest people i have ever met.he came unannounced and did some charitable work without drawing attention to himself or what he had donated.only God saw and will judge the man.and thats how we are all supposed to be.humble servants who dont advertise all we do.he even went ahead to have dinner with the waiters as opposed to big shots in society who would have wanted to have photos with him.
This is a man i would like to work for and give back to society while i am at it and defend his ministry to the last day if thats all i would do,trust me.
and the guy links self help with God matters,unlike those chasing money who only re do what others before them have done.
i mean?why attack what he is doing?could all these 40,000 plus global followers be going to hell?
notice at the end of every sermon he invites people to make God their Lord and saviour.isnt it what other seasoned preachers sometimes forget to do?
be very careful my friend for as you fight the man,you are actually fighting the king of kings and only he handle you and you will know that you are not fighting an ordinary man but a superpower.Very dangerous grounds you are treading on,but again,we are not to judge but we leave all to God.
Soldier on Joel,like someone once said,it aint gonna be easy all the time but time will be the judge of all.
As for you joel the writer,be blessed and grab a joel book while you are at it.
oh ,and another thing,joel in the bible only suffered for a while and the devil was the cause,after it was all over he had double the blessings as before.,,im sure you chose to mention the first part for a reason,,,which i now see,,,by going after the biggest pastor in the u.s you get to court controversy and your blog becomes popular and the money/attention comes.
we are on to you.the results you will get will be shocking.
Be blessed,Dan kilonzo,Nairobi,kenya.
WELL,WELL,WELL!!!
It was so nice to come across this site and read ALLLLLL the great,perfect,glass house owners SITTING IN JUDGEMENT.
I have no use for anyone that talks bad about Gods creations. I just ask you all this one question!! If you have a free pass from Jesus to say and do anything you wish than Please, keep up the great work for our Lord, I’m sure he will be glad to tell you how happy you made him.
I donot attened a Church, as Jesus says he is NOT in Building, but in our hearts and souls!! Is he living in yours each day?
I do live each day without, pain, hurt, judgement. But I do forgive as he did, you see I want him to be happy to see me!!!
Gods Speed!!!!!!
There are 1,071 comments so far, more to come. I have read most, I quit going to church because of being snubbed by these wantabe millionaires, and people claiming to be Christians as those criticing
or finding fault with Joel Osteen, I’ve never heard him be critical
of anyone, I now go to Wed. night Bible study at an old country church
and once a month at my office a group of everyday working men of different christian denominations attend, each brings something to eat and we vist a while, talk about current events.
We have true fellowship and worship Jesus, this is now my way of being a christian and attend Church, I don’t know Joel Osteens heart, “but” GOD does,
he’s in the position to reach thousands of people to be lead to salvation, i hope he is, I’am praying he does, if he is using the Lord, to scam his followers { woe to him } God will judge him
not you nor I , Mr. Osteen we will be praying for you, and your family.
First of all, I am glad to see this site and read what others think of this wolf in sheep’s clothes. I belive Elvis is alive and ms. Cleo can fortell the future more than I believe Joel is a true man of God.
I don’t listen to him because he scares me like hearing Jim Jones still does.
This man is misleading a multitude of folks.
One of my sisters attend the arena faithfully. She attends many ceremonies, workshops, and the like at the arena. However, she is one of the meanest people i know and holds hour to hour long prayer sessions alone at home. I am afraid for her. She acts like she belongs to a cult. I think it really is and that many will suffer death or a disasrous end by following this man. His wife is a “pastor” too. How about that? i guess he ordained her. It’s amatter of time before he like “tigger”. whoremonger woods is exposed. Evrything done in darkness MUST come to light!!!
I pray that the scales on peoples eyes fall off SOON!
Thank you for this opportunity to expose this CULT!!!
I wonder if something bad happens to joel or his family if he will still feel, act, talk, preach the same. I met a homelss man a few days ago who went to his arena and pastor ed’s buiding (on Woodway in Houston, Tx)for assistance when broke (i did too) and was also turned away because we are not members.
Pastor Ed is another con artist to a lot of weak minded people.
But, I dont want to drank the kool aid!!
So years later, no thanks to either, I am doing well.
Surely by the Grace of God. AMEN!!
Who ever took al the time to write all these is just wasting his valuable time and money! Do you realize that you could have spent your precious time in something more productive; if you are worried about your taxes, write to the IRS which is probably the guilty one here. I am not a religious person and I don’t go to church, but I surely always looking for opportunities to construct and not to destruct because I am convinced that every thing you do for others comes back to you in a greater measure!
Nobobdy should have to pay 10 dollars to hear the word of God.The church should be a place of refuge and worship but today it seen that the church has become a business of cash flow.It is very unfortunately but this is the reality.People today have to understand that it is by faith and grace and believing in Christ our Lord not by putting our focusness on man.As you probly know men have been using the church for its own financial gain.This doesn’t surprise me.The Bible teaches us that Jesus clean is temple.
Matt. 21 12 Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying
and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the
benches of those selling doves. 13
Joel Rocks Jesus socks.
Apparently, you must have some serious problems. I can’t tell by this article if you are a Christian or not, but if you are I feel like you should ask Jesus if this is what he thinks about Joel. If not, then why do you care?
As for me, God used Joel Osteen in his pursuit for me. I stumbled upon his service one late night at home during a hard time in my life. I ended up praying with Joel at the end of the show to accept Jesus as my savior. My life was forever changed.
I don’t go to Joels church, but I do go to an awesome church! My family, my heart, my whole life has been transformed.
I feel like you are saying all of these things because you haven’t seen these results yourself. It can happen. It has happend Today. Yesturday. And forever.
I will keep you in my prayers. I pray that your heart can be transformed as well. In Jesus name
Does Osteen tythe? Does he donate money or anything to any children’s hospitals or cancer surgery or the like? Just asking, I don’t know. I just know if I had a few hundred million bucks I would try to help out people in need. Maybe he does, hell if I know.
Nice analysis. You might be interested to read what I’m writing at “the red pen” – a page-by-page, line-by-line evaluation of Osteen’s latest text, “It’s Your Time.”
Thanks again,
Chris