Joel Osteen: Megachurch Televangelist Pastor without Christ?! SCANDAL!

SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.

Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one ofJoel Osteen Scandal Man Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.

So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?

Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?

Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.

In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.

What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!

If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).

Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.Joel Osteen & Barbara Walters

My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?

Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:

Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.

The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.

Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King

First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:

LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.

Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.

KING: Why are you a preacher?

JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.

Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.

KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?

JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.

Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.

LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.

LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?

JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.

LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?

JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.

Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.

LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?

JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.

LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?

JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.

Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!

LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?

JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …

LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?

JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.

The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.

Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.

DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!

Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?

Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!

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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.

Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen

I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)

For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)

To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:

-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.

Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?

-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.

-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.

-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.

-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;

-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).

For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.

Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)

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2,056 thoughts on “Joel Osteen: Megachurch Televangelist Pastor without Christ?! SCANDAL!”

  1. In the name of God, first of all, Joel talks about the Almighty God. I think you people have nothing else to do than to down others. Especially people whom are preaching the word of God and Jesus. Since your Satan’s lover you wouldn’t understand when Joel is talking about God because you are an unhappy person. Since when did the Lord give you privilage to judge others? What I’m doing is defending one of God’s children and all the other followers of Jesus who put trust and faith within the Lord and Joel Osteen which he has chosen to spread his Love and Truth. Satan chose you to condemn Joel for being righteous but, the Lord will protect him. Think about that while your burning in Hell. Thank You.

  2. Kudos to all the faithful who stood their ground on protecting Joel and the word of the Lord.

  3. I only think that you never will know how God works. Just wait and see if this is from the Lord or not wait and wait do no make comments like this you did not proof any point. Are you a christian?

  4. I’m amused that the most illiterate, confusing and outright stupid comments on my blog all appear on one post- this one.

  5. “Joel Gross”. You do not impress me as being a Christian at all, but that of some other religious ( if at all ) denomination.

    I cannot accept your rationale for putting down Joel Osteen. He has helped me and my family TREMENDOUSLY! Far more than our staunch Christian Catholic upbringing.

    My impression about your comments … you’re just envious for not having the same crowds of believers in your own parish ( if at all). Perhaps, you and your spiritual minister just do NOT have the gift of being able to convey to all people the rights and wrongs of life based on the principles of the Holy Bible as in the way that Joel Osteen does. Perhaps the ministry to which you belong (or do you?) just doesn’t have the same revenue as Joel Osteen. We watch him every Sunday for the past 3 years and not once has he asked for money. So what’s your problem?

    Are you jealous? Appears to be so.

    Your quotes from the Bible are 100% accurate. Your interpretation and application of those same quotations especially against Joel Osteen are deemed to be 100% MALICIOUS.

    Matter of fact, your quotes also apply to the Catholic Pope, the Schuller Ministries, the Dollar Ministries, Ed Youn Ministries, Jimmy Swaggart Ministries etc., etc.

    Sir! YOU and your blog are THE pitiful SCANDAL. I shall pray for you and shall tithe to Joel Osteen continuously in the hope that you too will go to heaven and be saved from the eternal hell from which you preach.

    Seems to me Joel Gross, that you have an anti-Christian religious agenda. You are NOT a Christian. You are simply a soldier attempting to appease your superiors. Definitely, “your life mission” and part of your childhood upbringing “as a chosen one”.

    You are “DISCOVERED”!

    You have some “better learning” to do. Get with it and do your homework!

  6. I feel the presence and power of Jesus Christ more strongly when I listen to Joel Osteen than with any other preacher I have ever encountered, and I’m 47 years old. After listening to him, the problems of my life seem petty, and I am ready to love and serve God all the more. I truly do not comprehend how any Christian could label him as anything less than an inspired man of God. Please don’t belittle a popular preacher just because he is popular. Please don’t make intellectual arguments about false prophets and so on, implying that Joel is not a good Christian. If you must criticize, attack God-less televsion, music, or movies that are so common. Examine your own conscience, ask for Divine Wisdom, and make sure there is no jealousy in your heart. Jesus be praised, Amen!

  7. The only thing I have to say is, last night I was watching Joel’s sermon and all he talked about was god. Look it up. The sermon was about embracing change and again all he talked about was god.

  8. The word of God is free. Christ said he is here to save us and I didn’t see where he said to charge for the Gospel. The Gospel (good news) is all about him (Christ). Ask for a contribution that’s not wrong, to price a seat to here the good news which is not your news or is it YOURS. I am not here to condemn anyone it is not my power to say who is a Christian or not. But by their spiritual fruits I will know them. God sees the heart not the person. You and I know what you or I say to our Heavenly Father, you and I don’t know what he’s saying to the Heavenly Father. Jacob was a trickier and God turned him a rounded, David was of God’s own heart (he was a chaser of God) he commit murder and fornication and Saul (now Paul) he murdered the Christians. WHO ARE US TO JUDGE???

  9. Thankfully, US are at least capable of judging grammar. By your fruits, WE judge you to be incompetent.

  10. This is AWFUL!!!!!!! How can you say that Joel Osteen doesn’t mention God? I know every time I watch him on tv or read his books, he is always giving God the glory and thanking Jesus. I LOVE THE LORD and I wouldn’t buy Pastor Joel books and listen to him every chance I get,if he didnt know GOD. HE is a Great Motivational speaker!!!!! He relates to every day REAL life. Why do people like you and others always try to destroy The Men and Women of GOD? He doesn’t know who is going to heaven,ONLY GOD knows. Why your Judging Joel ,you should be concerned about where your eternity will be spent.The Lord says “Touch Not MY Annioted”speak no evil of his ANNIOTED ONE and Joel is one of his ANNIOTED. The thing that really bothed me was what it stated about tithes and offerings. As long as I have been watching Lakewood Ministries I have NEVER heard him ask nor beg for either of those. All ministries sell books and cd’s. All ministries ask for TV donations.So, why single him out? Because the devil is ALWAYS BUSY!!!!!!! Why worry where the money is going as long as your doing your part,by giving 10% tithes and your best offerring that The Lord Requires, then maybe one day you will be just as Blessed as Joel.Until GOD exposes Joel for any scandals or wrong doings, I will continue to watch him, read his books and Pray for him and his family.

  11. you are going to burn in hell for not believing in god and for putting down his servants….

  12. i am not a joel osteen follower so my comment should be more objective than others. judging others without having a substantial evidence is not fair in God eyes.
    i believe joel is a honest humble man.thats what he inspires. i see him more as a motivator than a preacher. and by being a great motivator he is doing a good job.
    the gospel needs to be preach as a whole and not fracture into only one subjet.joel osteen have to realize that some day.about the money if has come from thite and offerings needs to be use to continue preaching the gospel giving away bibles.take care of the needy and not for personal enrichment. probably no body have ask him to show a report of where the money he gets goes.if is being use for those purposes . then he has nothing to be ashame of. if the money is going to a personal account.then that is wrong doing.most of his attackers a ruthless antichristian fellows that are jellows of his success.if they can prove with substantial evidence that he is take advantage of his believers by using the money for personal enrichment i will change my opinion. if you can not leave the man alone and let God judge him.

  13. why are you so concerned with tearing down joel osteen? ever heard of live and let live? he’s not bothering you and if you don’t like him, move on. but sitting around focusing your time and energy on hating him makes you look more ridiculous than him. he’s living a happy life. yours sounds empty. get out and live rather than staying indoors and bitching about how other people live and what others choose to believe.

  14. First of all,I am really amazed and saddened by the fact that so many claiming to be “Christians” would be so insanely moronic and un-Christlike as to personally attack “Joel” the writer for expressing his opinions. Its like who hired you as Osteen’s defense attorneys? Why does he need them anyway if he is walking the path he should (Joel O) should be on? “By this, shall all men know that you are My disciples, that you have love one for another.” Wheres the love in your responses to Joel? If people hated and attacked me for stating my feelings, and those people were “Christians” I would not want to be one either. Be careful, for you will be judged with the same measure that you are measuring and judging Joel with. “Love covers a multitude of sins.” Stop and think about it, Joel,the blog writer,has obviously had some real hurt and pain in his life, likely inflicted by Christians.
    Perhaps his father was a famous preacher and got divorced and it tore the whole
    family up….? We don’t know the path another has been forced to walk, nor the pain they have had to endure and the scars they bear. But it really disgusts me that people who call themselves followers of the greatest lover of all times, are the first to pick up the stones and cast them at others. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone,” Jesus said.

  15. Joel, I have watched Joel Osteen and even attended his service. He does take up an offering like all churches do, but not on air. I been to many different churches in my lifetime Assembly of God, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, and Catholic. All of them teach the Bible differently, does that make them wrong? I’m not sure that there is one correct opinion, except God’s, on what a verse means or doesn’t mean. I do realize you are very good at quoting them and you have an opinion on what they mean to you. Some opinions on Bible versus I have liked, some not so much. So I choose to focus more on the ones that make me feel I can be a better Christian and person because if I’m spewing out negative ones and focus on those who would want to listen to me or even be around me. I think that Joel gives us an opprtunity to look at the good God has to offer and encourages us to get into a good Bible based based church to grow even more. I know his sermans help me to be a better person and I don’t think God would frown on that.

  16. I think Pastor Joel is a great person, I’ve read his books and they do talk about Jesus and how to live a christian life.

  17. I HAVE BEEN WATCHING JOEL OSTEEN FOR A FEW YEARS (31/2 YEARS). I HEAR THE WORD “GOD” REPEATITLY. YOU SIR/MADAM MUST HAVE YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ***. I DO BELIEVE YOU ARE TRYING TO DENEGRADE MR. OSTEEN. PERHAPS YOU ARE ONE OF THE LIBERAL FREAKS OPPOSED TO ORGANIZED RELIGION. I AN NOT A HOLY ROLLER BUT, THE WEEKLY TELECASTS OF MR, OSTEEN PROVIDE A GOOD FEELING FOR MY WIFE AND I.

  18. Hey Joel God love’s websites like this. Just Kidding. First and formost I would like to know if you and your fellow bloggers are into organized religion? My other question to you and your bloggers is how many people have paid gross amounts of money to see their favouite rock band or whatever bands play live. Come on people, how many morgaged the farm for that T-shirt. Did anybody loby against that satanic rock band and what side would you of taken? And at the end of that concert, did you not come out of it felling great regardless of what your parents said? I am not into organized religion, in fact I believed religion has caused most of the major issues during the world’s history ie: crusaids, inquisitions etc. A famous person once said that when the last king was strangled by the last entralls of the last priest then man would trully be free. I am a supporter of the website Zeitgeist which is an affront to Christians, but at the same time I am married to a Christian whose faith has been tested too many times. Eventually she watched a free show by Joel Olsteen. Of course I was sceptacle but I indulged her. What I saw was someone who offered hope, and did not offer anything in return. Isn’t that what mankind wants and needs? I do not care in heaven or hell or nothingness. What I care in is mankind clinging to anything that makes them fell good and do good things. Joel Olsteen like the Eagles,Kennedy, Martin Lurther King or any of the other great inspirations in my life have never forced me to join them . They have relied on their message and nothiing more. I am not jealsous of his success nor envious. I believe mankind needs dreams and people to offer these dreams. If someone says something to me that makes me feel good then god love you, because we are in a world of hurt and destruction. If there is someone out there who make’s me feel good about myself, then more power to him/her, I will pay the twenty bucks to him/her ( I have checked their concert sites LOL ). Megachurches are built by people who want something possitive in their lives. If they are built for good (like my parents did) then I refuse to tear them down regardless of my own feelings.

  19. While I know little about Mr. Osteen and his ministry, as a Christian I do know something about Scripture.

    To Ron (March 6, 2008 9:40 am): You, and many others, often quote the judgement scripture out of context. The entire passage reads as follows:

    Matthew 7:1-3 (King James Version)

    [1]Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2]For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    It does not say NOT to judge others. It is saying be careful who and how you judge for the same standards will be used to judge you.

    The chapter then goes on to say:

    “[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?”

    At first glance, Mr. Osteen looks to be a false prophet of Christ. However, I shall do quite a bit more research on him and his ministry before rendering my judgement.

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