SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
When the ocean rise and thunders roar, I will soar with you above the storm. Father you are King over the flood. I will be still and now You are God.
Our God is our refuge, defender, vindicator, very present help in time of need.
I’m from Western Samoa, a small island in the south pacific.
One of Joel Osteen’s sermon that really blessed was “Living your dream”. If people say negative words about you, just learn to shake it off and move on. We are eagles, we don’t need to fight the crows and chickens, we need to soar higher.
Christian living is having a relationship with Jesus Christ (the Only Way, the Truth…). It doesn’t matter if we know the bible from Genesis to Revelation (head knowledge) like the Pharisees and the Sadducees (hypocrites). We obey the bible through conviction in Jesus Christ by God’s grace. Not out of obligation and living under the law.
God Bless.
A little correction on my typing error in my first paragraph last sentence…. I will be still and know You are God…. Thanks
I’m sorry Father i ask for forgivness now,Father in heaven i know that i’m a sinner,Father that is why you sent your son Jesus to us so that we could come on bended knees and ask for forgivness of or sins, Father it seems to me that the person//persons that came up with this actical thinks that they were the one or ones that you sent to forgive us our sins, but Father please correct me if i’m wrong but could satan also quote scripts from the bible as well????? i just find it really hard to belive that someone that trys to do good in a world full of dispair is always put down because of what??? JEALOUSY, HATERED, INGORANCE, FATHER as i asked before please forgive me for my judgement of this//these people and hopefully if they have the gummies to read what real people who understand what real christiany is about; can ask for forgiveness for themselves AMEN and thank you FATHER for your time your son mike
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, YOU CONDEMN JOEL’S CHURCH BECAUSE IT HAS NO CROSS IN THE CHURCH ? HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT? UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN THERE !!!
PEOPLE LIKE YOU NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME .
ONE BECAUSE YOU TRY AND QUOTE GOD’S WORD AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HIS WORD IS..
YOU TRY AND FIND ANY KIND OF GARBAGE TO DESTORY A MAN THAT BUILD ‘S PEOPLE UP..
YOU SLANDER AND TRY TO ADD MORE TO THE PAIN OF ALL THESE MEN ON TOP OF THEIR GUILT AND SHAME OF WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY HAVE ENDURED,LIKE PASTOR SWAGGERT, JIM BAKER, TED HAGGARD.
DOES IT HELP YOU SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT WHEN YOU SLANDER SOMEONE MORE THAN WHAT THEY ‘VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH?
DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR FACING WHEN YOU DO THIS ?
JESUS SAID HOW YOU TREAT OTHERS IS HOW YOUR GOING TO BE TREATED.
MATHEW 12:36 ~ BUT I SAY TO YOU THAT FOR EVERY IDLE WORD MEN MAY SPEAK,THEY WILL GIVE ACCOUNT OF IT IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.
FURTHERMORE,THE DECIPLES WERE NOT MEN WITH DEGREES, NOR HAD THEY EVER ATTENDED A SEMINARY,NOR WERE THEY TRAINED AS AN ABSOLUTE LEADER IN A RELATIVE WORLD.
BUT JESUS WAS ! YET THEY STILL FOLLOWED HIM ! THEY SPENT TIME WITH JESUS THATS HOW THEY LEARNED.
DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT KING SOLOMAN WAS ONE OF THE WEALTHEST MEN IN THE BIBLE?
HE HAD A MEGA CASTLE AND A MEGA GOLD AND MEGA SILVER AND MEGA CATTLE AND MEGA HORSES , AS WAS KING DAVID HE WAS MEGA WEALTHY AS WELL.
SO WHY IS IT SO DISTRUBING TO YOU THAT JOEL OSTEEN HAS A MEGA CHURCH?
GOD MADE THE MEN OF THE BIBLE MEGA WEALTHY SIR, BECAUSE THEY LOVED GOD AND OBEYED HIM. YET THEY STILL SINNED BECAUSE THEY WERE HUMAN.
AND HE STILL BLESSES MEN THAT SERVE HIM IN THE TWENTYTH CENTURY!
BUT YET GOD FORGAVE AND CONTINNUED TO BLESS THEM OVER AND OVER.!!
AND BY THE WAY YOU ARE VERY WRONG I HAPPEN TO LISTEN TO HIM JOEL OSTEEN MOST SUNDAY NIGHTS AFTER I ATTEND MY HOME CHURCH WHERE I LIVE.
I HAVE HEARD HIM TEACH AND PREACH HUNDREDS OF SERMONS AND GOD’S NAME IS USED NUMEROUS OF TIMES.
AND HE ALWAYS INVITES YOU TO INVITE JESUS INTO YOUR LIFE AT THE END OF HIS SHOW.
ONE THING PEOPLE LIKE YOU YOUR KIND ALL SEEMS TO ALWAYS OVER LOOK , GOD’S WORD STATES VERY CLEARLY , TOUCH NOT MY ANNOINTED DO MY PROHPET NO HARM!
AT LEAST THESE MEN OF GOD HAVE ADMITTED THEIR MISTAKES AND RECEIVED FORGIVENESS, FOR THE LORD SAYS HE WILL NEVER LEAVE US NOR FORSAKE US,HE WILL NEVER LET US GET SO FAR FROM HIM THAT HE WANT LET US COME BACK HOME TO HIM.
JOEL OSTEEN HAS DONE NO WRONG TO HIS CHURCH .
ONE LAST THING I’D LIKE TO LEAVE WITH YOUR THOUGHTS.
PROVERBS 13:3 HE WHO GUARDS HIS MOUTH PRESERVES HIS LIFE,BUT HE WHO OPENS WIDE HIS LIPS SHALL HAVE DESTRUCTION..
I WAS JUST THINKING ,WHAT GOOD HAVE YOU GAINED BY ALL YOUR ADVERTISING ABOUT ALL THESE MEN AND ALL THE SHORT COMINGS AND FAULTS YOU HAVE LABELED THEM WITH?
I WANDER ARE YOU BLAMELESS , ARE YOU SINLESS, I WANDER HAVE YOU EVER LIED,OR GOT DRUNK,OR LOOKED AT ANOTHER WOMEN IF YOUR MARRIED THAT IS IF YOUR A MAN?
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT DECEITFUL THINGS IN YOUR MIND OR HEART ,HAVE YOU EVER GOTTEN BITTER OR ANGRY AT YOUR NEIGHBOR DO YOU HARBOR A GRUDGE IN YOUR HEART ?
DO YOU HAVE UNFORGIVENESS IN YOUR HEART AS WELL?
DO LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF ?
IF YOU HAVE DONE ANY OF THESE THINGS THEN YOU KNOW YOUR NO DIFFERENT FROM THEM ARE YOU , AT LEAST GOD STATES THOSE EXACT WORDS IN THE BIBLE.
WHEN YOU’VE DONE IT TO THE LEAST OF THESE YOU’VE DONE UNTO ME !
I SURE WOULD HATE TO BE IN YOUR SHOES COME JUDGEMENT DAY.
I’M NOT JUDGING YOU , I JUST KNOW PEOPLE LIKE ARE IN THIS WORLD AND ITS JUST GIVEN , AND YOU JUST THINK ITS WRONG TO BE RICH, WELL MAYBE BECAUSE YOU HAVE HAD A HARD ROAD TO TRAVEL.
WHO HASN’T? YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE IN THE WORLD ,BUT WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING YOUR STILL IGNORANT.
BY THE WAY ARE YOU THE ONE PUBLISHING THE FACT AND ADVERTISING THAT YOU BUILD WEB SITES?
WELL ISN’T THAT JUST LIKE A COINCIDENCE SIR, YOUR TRYING TO MAKE MEGA MONEY TOO .
OFF BUTCHERING JOEL OSTEEN…..AND ALL THE OTHER MINISTERS !
GOD SAID COME BOLDLY TO THE THRONE OF GRACE, SO I THINK I’M DONE !
HAVE A WONDERFUL LIFE AND PRAY FOR IT ,YOUR GONNA NEED IT !!
TRULY, JJ
There is really nothing more to say. Truly,JJ said it all. And I agree totally. Sometimes it is better to
keep our thoughts inside our head and just not open the mouth to let it out. God Bless all those
who are trying to do the right thing. CB
I AM VERY SHOCKED AT THIS NONSENSE !! AND WHO ARE ALL OF YOU TO JUDGE ONE ? AND DO YOU ASK YOURSELF, DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE SUCH AWFUL COMMENTS ABOUT SOME ONE? THE LAST I KNEW JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE I KNOW WHO WALKS ON WATER AND HAS THE AUTHORITY TO JUDGE. SO I WOULD BE VERY CAREFUL OF DOING THE JOB OF THE MOST HIGH GOD. THE WAY I SEE IT JOEL OSTEEN IS TEACHING THE WORD OF GOD AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING SAVED AND I HAPPEN TO WATCH HIM EVERY CHANCE I GET AND HE DOES TALK ABOUT GOD AND AT THE END OF EVERY SERVICE HE GIVES EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCEPT GOD INTO THERE HEART, SO I REALLY DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT AND WHY PEOPLE ARE TALKING SO BAD OF HIM. BEFORE WE TRY CHANGING OTHERS WE NEED TO ASK GOD WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE ABOUT OUR OWN SELF…
Honestly? You’re going to judge him like that? He preaches the word of God and he inspires many people including myself. And you know what? Just because he doesn’t condemn Jewish people or even those of other religions doesn’t make him a bad person and it doesn’t make him a bad Christian. And he’s right, we cant judge whats in peoples hearts only God can. We are no better than anybody else, we are not God therefore we cannot make those judgments for ourselves. We don’t completely nor maybe even truly know how God judges us, only that we must be good people and lead good lives. I think you should be ashamed of yourself.
John 3:34,Acts 4:12, Romans 1:1-3, Hebrews 5: 12-13. First was the word.. a messenger without a message is a dangerous man, for satan believe also yet he trembles. If you cannot die for what you believe you are not different from aq hyposcrite. Until Christ is the lord of all, He is not your Lord yet.
John 3:34,Acts 4:12, Romans 1:1-3, Hebrews 5: 12-13. First was the word.. a messenger without a message is a dangerous man, for satan believe also yet he trembles. If you cannot die for what you believe you are not different from a hyposcrite. Until Christ is the lord of all, He is not your Lord yet.
I come from Papua New Guinea, a country that you may have not heard of, as only recently have been discovered. Its blessed with lots of natural resources and is a christian country…
My family have benefited greatly from Pastor Joel Osteen’s sermons through Television, his positive sermons have helped us get over alot of hurdles in our lives.
I believe that only a man of GOD can reach someone who is out and down.
Praise God that Christians like Joel can use their wealth to reach people like ourselves through media.
I pray that he can continue to reach out to others around the world.
God will bless those who give to his work.
I believe your energies should be used to support less fortunate people other then criticizing others…
God Bless
It amazes me how many people jump to defend this man. I’m not going to say horrible things about him, but I will say this… I feel bad for people who think this man is the expert on Christianity. His main goal is to keep the money flowing in. He doesn’t want to address real issues because he wants everyone to feel good and be uplifted. He is a motivational speaker, not a pastor. Please go find a REAL church and a real leader.
Shana, Janice, Tani and PAM i totally agree with you guys. Who is the bigot that is slandering Joel? And so what if his wife got fined? We are all HUMANS, we all make mistakes, who is this male HUMAN to judge another? That is the most High GOD’S duty, not man, and yes Joel does mention GOD in his sermons. He also teaches on how we can better ourselves for the LORD. And Eichler75, where did Joel ever say he was an expert on Christianity? And what’s wrong with feeling good and uplifted? Joel Osteen has uplifted many in need, and has brought many to the LORD. Why can’t you be satisfied with that?
He who does not sin cast the first stone. It seem’s that this guy has cast alot of stones towards brother Joel. I guess he thinks he is without sin. I want to encourage you to look very careful in a mirror to take out the plank in your own eye, so that you can see the truth and be set free! Who the Son sets free is free indeed! There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus!
” I am THEE Way, Truth and the Life, NO man comes to the Father EXCEPT through me” Jesus. Sorry Joel, but that’s the way it is.
Jesus said “you will them by their fruit” this is not judging and if it were, it would be righteous judgment ( Read John chapter 7). Anyone who denies Christ until their last breath will be separated from God forever. I did not say it, but God did.
Do NOT exalt what any man says above the word of God. Joel Osteen is only a man. Who do you say Jesus is?
Jesus said “you will know them by their fruit” this is not judging and if it were, it would be righteous judgment ( Read John chapter 7). Anyone who denies Christ until their last breath will be separated from God forever. I did not say it, but God did.
Do NOT exalt what any man says above the word of God. Joel Osteen is only a man. Who do you say Jesus is?
I FIND IT IRONIC HOW THE NEWS MEDIA CAN PUT SOMEONE DOWN FOR WHAT OTHERS BELIEVE IN ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO CHRIST,WHEN IN FACT THE MEDIA IS DOING WRONG WHEN THEY DO ALOT OF GOSSIPING OR TRYING TO CAUSE A SCANDLE WHEN THERE ISN’T ONE.GOSSIP IS A SIN AND CAUSING SOMEONE PAIN AND RIDICULE IS NOT CHRIST LIKE EITHER. I KNOW IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE THAT IF YOU GO TO HEAVEN YOU MAY BE THERE WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE WRONG IN THEIR PAST,BUT I SAY WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE..ISN’T JUDGING A SIN? YOU ALWAYS WANT TO PUT SOMETHING WHERE IT’S NOT HOW CAN YOU WAKE UP EVERYDAY AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR AT YOURSELF YOU SHOULD BEWARE FOR YOUR OWN SOUL AND NOT OTHERS.
This post is unfair and skewed. My points:
1) First you say Joel does not mention God or Jesus. Then you post videos proving your own root statement to be unsubstantiated.
2) I know Paul Barnes. He was my Pastor. He was the most honest, gifted preacher in my life. I have yet to find any church with any pastor who meets his standard.
3) A true Christian understands the importance of forgiveness. More importantly, true Christians leave judgement up to our God. He was, He is, He is yet to be. God is in control, not the “church”.
You clearly have some issues to address, I recommend you find a way to do so without inappropriately dragging innocent people into your “online therapy.”
You are aware there is “offline” therapy, right?
Please my friend, do not touch the anointed of God. This man helped me get out of a terrible depressed state. A work only the Spirit of God within him could do. Be careful what you say!!!!!
Wow, only a true hater could speak such nonsense. Obviousley the person who wrote this has never taken the time to watch Joel’s messeges. I suggest he should watch a few times, maybe then he wouldn’t write such ingnorant predictions such as this. How can you start a scandal by PREDICTING that there will be a scandal? Open up your heart my friend. The high road is much better than the low one you are on.