SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
Evil does exist .. It’s called THE FEDERAL RESERVE . FORGET JOEL… he’s a pawn . Go to infowars.com and learn something about the world . Put a stop to every reason that you attend Niels church . End the fed bring in free energy and there will be peace , and real freedom for everyone . Not that fake freedom the military thinks there fighting for . Who is your master , you can’t serve to ,
It is really sad that Piers Morgan was a more reputable man than Joel Olsteen. Those who stand for nothing will fall for everything! I was hoping that Joel would have an opinion then I would have respected him more. If he would just be real and really tell the world what he thinks, then his chair would not have been so hot. It’s very hard to keep what you think a secret, but so easy to just be bold and tell the truth. What does Joel have to lose, except followers. What does he gain….his soul.
I always thought the Osteens were self serving frauds. After his interview last night on Piers Morgan, I’m convinced I was right all along. A preacher that protects his earthly treasures from taxation (billions he sucks from the poor for books & appearances that follow him), believes in a Governor that has executed innocent people and has used the word “niggerhead” to describe a family property is a amazing. I wonder if that airline story regarding his fake wife has some merits a fews years ago. They had enough money to win the case.
I’ve watched Joel Osteen many times and in such a crazy world we live in we need the encouragement. Who cares if he does it for money at least he gives an up-lifting message about hope and faith. As for Larry King…. Well he’s the real screwed up one. Lte’s see here, Joel Osteen married once for 25 years and counting. Larry King….. How many is he going on now??? Does he even know or has he totally lost count? I know I have. From what I read on this little scam website here is you guys put the words in yourself. He never said anything not of religious nature and you guys added the rest in your own words. I’m grateful for people like him who spend or earn their money spreading cheer instead of all the other ways other people do it. Ya know the government, corporations and companies who simply don’t care.
That why Church and State should always remain seperate. When you put yourself out as a Man of God ( oh that’s right Osteen don’t use God but, they take the tax exempt status as most men of God do) you should be careful who you elevate while going around spreading your nice message. Perry is a hypocrite and most people know it.
I don’t think I have been rendered speechless in all my life, til now! I have some questions? Are you a Christian? Have you read the bible? Why would you attack someone you don’t know? I am not in a ministers league by no means, but I am certainly out of your league! I will answer a couple questions for you. The bible says (not a grey area) you are never to question how much a minister makes. You have no clue how many charities he helps. God says if authoritive figures, including ministers are doing wrong, he will take care of it, it is our job to do what God says.. I hope you really repent and are forgiven! You are the one who has committed the sin here. You have passed judgement on another being…..oops for you. What business is it of yours if his father left this to him or not, especially, like you said, he is the most popular minister, must be doing something right. Next thing your confused about: I share his take on religion, its a bunch of rules someone made up, they are not biblical, god doesn’t much like religion, and then the Jews, I guess you missed Jesus on the cross, asking his father, God to forgive them, for they not know what they do. and there are a lot of religions out there, God is good, he has alrready in charge of ll people. and made jobs, which quite frankley, The Obomafi
You didn’t investigate much, you never called us, which i find a bit prreculiar. I wrote a huge mail thing then accidentally lostt it, I need you to be strong Jimmy and I paid for it., anyway say hi to chipper for me, can’t wait to seeyou
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Joel Osteen sermons which are Biblically based along with Scripture & has been truly a Blessing of Encouragement for me, The Lord Jesus Christ has given Joel Osteen the gift of Encouraging others.
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This is what I know I get up on Sundays to watch Joel Osteen because I love the inspiration he brings to me. He reminds me we are not perfect and that any problem we may have in life we need to have faith and let God take care of it and no matter what the answer it will be the right one.
Shame on you !!! You must have a terrible life to sit around and judge him.Joel Osteen brings happiness to us all.If you don’t like him sorry about your luck.Do not throw stones unless you look in your own backyard.
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Hey, I believe what’s going on here is that everyone is at a different level in their walk with God, and everyone has different avenues by which they acquire what they assume to be peace. But know this, the only peace is the peace of God. Peace acquired any other way, is false peace. So, if you enjoy the WORD that Joel Olsteen gives, then so be it. I just pray that one day the Holy Ghost, who is the Comforter will overshadow you with His love, so you will not depend on man who has an encouraging word for that peace, but the Word of God and your relationship with Him. The Word of God not only brings peace, but it cuts, it severs, it divides, it chastises, shines light into darkness, gives you the power to live right, nd it has the power to free you from sin. It is alive and active. Where you are at is up to you, but I need a word that is stronger: One that had the power to free me from sin and brought freedom and the beauty of being in love with JESUS. Yes, JESUS, the Christ, the Son of the Living God. I pray that God will open the blind eyes that they might live.
I clearly understand that we are all at different levels in our walk with God or the lack thereof. Everyone has different avenues by which they choose to acquire peace. But know this, true peace is only begotten with God. Acquiring peace any other way is false peace. It is quite true that everyone needs a little encouragement, but the word of God cuts, severs, divides, chastises, shines light over darkness, has the power to deliver you from sin. It is alive and active and will never change. If you get the word of God in you, buried in your heart, then you have a weapon that you can use to protect you, give you peace, and assurance. As for me, I choose a more sure word of God–and a man of God that has the courage to lay aside his life to preach the bible, in full, to the glory of God. Sometimes you’ll lose church membership, but one thing that man of God will have is when he ascends to heaven, God will ask him, “did you feed my sheep.” and if he can answer “yes,” then God will say, “well done, my Good and Faithful servant.” I pray that God will open the eyes of the blind and shine light upon darkness. My heart goes out for anyone that is not in a place where the sound preaching of a true man of God will convict them and empower them as well as encourage them. If I am in a house where there is not balance…..then I move on. God bless you all. My heart goes out for you.
I am going to pray for the people who oppose my Pastor. I have attended Lakewood with my family for years & our lives have been changed! Joel gives us hope & teaches us to have faith in our Father in heaven. How does he NOT talk about God??? That’s the foundation of every one of his sermons! Joel has so much love for people & our church helps so many people in our city, other cities, other countries, everywhere! Joel brings light to the darkness, exactly what a christian should do, according to Gods weird. We are to be the light. And it’s normal for worldly people to want to oppose a christian, we don’t look like the world, we are set apart by The Creator of all. So, this isn’t surprising. It just shows the difference between a christian & a worldly person. I pray that you too can find true happiness with a relationship with Jesus Christ. Because in the presence of God, is fullness of joy!!!! Thank you, Jesus! Woo! I am fired up & ready to go praise God & hear an awesome message from Joel!!! Be blessed all!!!!!!!!
According to Gods WORD*
The Bible clearly states you are not supposed to judge others and obviously the author of this blog has forgot that verse.
Bloody nalgas. The bible contains thousands of contradictions and cryptic analogies on any given comment that Joel or any makes it both agrees with and contradicts the bible. For example concerning the most important topic in the bible —-how to be saved or reconciled to god —there are at least 150 different ways (see skeptics annotated bible and how to be saved) and Joel osteen virtually never asked for money. God almighty Bro…
I warn the writer of this blog to be careful when attempting to judge and criticize Pastor Joel Osteen. Because remember, only God can give a man or woman their “calling in life” and no one else can. Pastor Joel Osteen is fulfilling his calling ordained by God. Before you listen to the constant “judgements” in this blog where incidentally, the writer seems to be ashamed to mention his or her own name, realize that God gives us all our own calling in life. No man or woman can give us our calling in life. So by following the call of God on our own life we are doing our part in the “Body of Christ”. We are not called to fulfill every else’s part. Let God tell them what their part is. We are obeying God by doing only our part. When we ALL do our own part in the Body of Christ we will then get closer and closer to the UNITY of the FAITH, which God teaches us WILL occur in (Ephesians 4:12-14). Joel Osteen is doing his part in the Body of Christ. He is focusing on HIS PART. And incidentally, contrary to what the “unknown writer” of this blog is claiming, I have heard Pastor Joel Osteen preach and teach on the consequences of unbelief ALL the time. Pastor Osteen talks about GOD all the time. Yet the unknown writer of this article hasn’t heard those sermons. Unlike Pastor Osteen, this unknown writer is NOT doing his part in the Body of Christ. Because there is no calling in the Body of Christ to stand in judgement over another persons calling. God is using Pastor Joel Osteen ministries to accomplish mighty things on the earth in the name of Jesus Christ, and it is very evident that is it GOOD. Let us all pray for the unknown writer of this article, so they too can hear and fulfill their calling from God, and God alone. Only God can judge. God Bless You!!! 😀
I am a christian and I honestly believe that Pastor Joel did not misinterprete christianity in that interview, here and this is my reason. I am an African, and I can say with absolute certainty that my great grand parents never knew a thing about Jesus. Will they go to hell for this? If a christian thinks they will,then I say that we know God in a completely different way. Please read Romans 12 :12-16. Yes, Jesus is the only way, to our redemption but here we clearly see that God has made provision for those who do not know Jesus as His son. So to me, Joel was right in saying that he can not judge who will go to heaven and who will not. Larry asked him questions expecting direct yes or no answers,when we can clearly see that even the bibld has provisions for people who do not know