SUPER FUNNY UPDATE ON JOEL OSTEEN: Check out Joel Osteen’s super scammy books he sells on Amazon (24!!!) including his self help BS book
and his hilarious book on “Wise Choices”. If only he’d follow his own advice!
LOL! For all you Joel Osteen fanboys – remember he just cynically feeds on you to make money so he can live his fancy lifestyle. He couldn’t care less about you in reality.
Popular televangelist preacher Joel Osteen has been named the “Most Influential Christian in America” in 2006 by the Church Report, was one of
Barbara Walters, “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006 and operates an extraordinarily profitable religious scam operation that probably will one day end in scandal.
So who is this guy who has appeared on 60 Minutes, Larry King Live and has his own television shows?
Who is this guy who thinks he can share the mighty name of Joel?
Joel Osteen has not yet had major sex scandals, drug scandals or molestation scandals like the other megachurch pastors: Pat Robertson, Al Sharpton, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, D.E. (Earl) Paulk, Jimmy Swaggert, Jim Bakker, William Dodd and too many others to possibly mention here. What Joel Osteen DOESN’T do is the real question.
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not talk about God. Joel Osteen instead talks about almost everything except God. He has a television ministry, a massive church, $43 million a year in tithes and another $36 million a year in mailed in donations, but he won’t talk about God. He, like Pastor Kevin Gerald, talks about more pleasant topics, such as donating money to him and positive thinking. He has written two books, the second of which sold 3 million copies, but his books don’t really talk about God either. It’s just his bland and boring advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such drivel.
What does Joel Osteen say when people ask him about why he does not discuss God or Jesus Christ or sin or what you need to do to go to Heaven? “That’s not my gift.” What are you doing being a freaking megachurch pastor then, bonehead?!
If you are going to try to operate a religious scam, at least make it religious! I actually think that Joel Osteen operating a secular “Christian” church is more of a scandal than Ted Haggard and his transsexual prostitutes and meth! (Though not nearly as funny of a scandal).
Joel Osteen didn’t even found his megachurch; instead the business was handed down to him by his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had only preached ONE sermon in his entire life- and that was the week before. Joel Osteen does not have any training in the Bible (seminary, degrees, etc.), which is probably why he doesn’t want to talk about it much.
My loyal readers have pointed out to me many times that the ridiculous actions of leaders in religion do not invalidate their beliefs. They are absolutely correct on this. However, there has never been anything that VALIDATES their beliefs either. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has the same amount of evidence on his side as most other gods. Here is another question I put to you: Please find me a single megachurch pastor who is NOT a scam-running, meth-eating, prostitute-abusing criminal. Anyone?
Update March 3, 2008 on JOEL OSTEEN:
Many people have been discussing Joel Osteen in the comments and making statements about his beliefs, behavior and preaching methods that show a distinct lack of understanding of his profit driven motives. Below I have added a video of Joel Osteen on Larry King Live where he dances around the core question of the Christian faith: What does it take to get to heaven? Joel Osteen hems and haws and won’t even say that people of different religions won’t make it to heaven.
The partial transcript for Joel Osteen’s interview with Larry King is below. I have basically pulled out the most pertinent excerpts to the point I have tried to make on televangelist Joel Osteen.
Televangelist Joel Osteen Discusses Christianity with Larry King
First is Larry King’s impressive introduction of Joel Osteen:
LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Joel Osteen, evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States… Pastor Joel Osteen is here for the hour…. Joel Osteen is the author of the number one “New York Times” best-seller, “Your Best Life Now.” There you see its cover. “Seven Steps to Living at Your Full Potential.” There is now a compendium been published called “Your Best Life Now Journal,” a guide to reaching that full potential. Joel Osteen is pastor of Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. His father before him. He has been called the smiling preacher.
Larry King knows Joel Osteen Ministries is huge and tries to play nice with him throughout the interview.
KING: Why are you a preacher?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I never was for 17 years. I worked with my dad there at the church. He tried to get me to minister. I didn’t have it in me. I worked behind the scenes. I loved doing production and things. But when my father died, I just knew — I don’t know how to explain it, it sounds kind of odd, but I just knew down to here I was supposed to step up to the plate and pastor the church. And it was odd because I had never preached before. But I just knew I was supposed to do it.
Hmmm… either God gave him the “calling” or he was scared of losing his father’s multi-million dollar preaching business.
KING: But don’t you think if people don’t believe as you believe, they’re somehow condemned?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I’m for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it’s not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that’s God’s for you. You can live a good life no matter what’s happened to you. And so I don’t know. I know there is condemnation but I don’t feel that’s my place.
Joel Osteen comes right out and says that he will refuse to condemn sinners. He is too afraid, it’s not his place, he just wants to spew bland niceties… hmmm.
LARRY KING: Where were you ordained? OSTEEN: I was ordained from the church there, Lakewood, under my dad’s ministry.
LARRY KING: So you didn’t go to seminary?
JOEL OSTEEN: No, sir, I didn’t.
LARRY KING: They can just make you a minister?
JOEL OSTEEN: You can, you can.
Wow. Joel Osteen never even attended Bible school or classes for future preachers. No wonder he is so clueless about Biblical theology.
LARRY KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
JOEL OSTEEN: I don’t think it’s that hard. To me it’s fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family — I don’t feel like that at all. I’m not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I’m just living my life.
LARRY KING: But you have rules, don’t you?
JOEL OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that’s really the essence of the Christian faith.
Of course its not hard for Joel Osteen to lead a Christian life. BECAUSE HE’S NOT!!!
LARRY KING: What if you’re Jewish or Muslim, you don’t accept Christ at all?
JOEL OSTEEN: You know, I’m very careful about saying who would and wouldn’t go to heaven. I don’t know …
LARRY KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They’re wrong, aren’t they?
JOEL OSTEEN: Well, I don’t know if I believe they’re wrong. I believe here’s what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person’s heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don’t know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don’t know. I’ve seen their sincerity. So I don’t know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.
The last exchange between Larry King and Joel Osteen hits the nail on the head of everything that is wrong with the Joel Osteen Ministry. All it is is fluff. He can’t even defend the single core belief of Christianity- that a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is a requirement to gain access to Heaven.
Below is more Joel Osteen preaching videos. Joel Osteen preaches on cheesy, transparent topics that have nothing to do with the Bible. He twists scripture around to serve his own purposes of mass produced drivel. My question to Joel Osteen is where in the Bible does it say Christians have a “right to total victory” over physical pain, financial problems and other issues? Did he completely miss the book of Job or the trials and tribulations that the early Christians had to suffer under the Romans? I don’t think that Joel Osteen has ever even read the Bible.
DO NOT LET JOEL OSTEEN CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH HIS BIBLE-CONTRADICTING, POLITICALLY CORRECT AND PROFIT SEEKING DRIVEL! JOEL OSTEEN’S SCANDAL IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Jesus once went into a temple and threw out currency traders and salespeople…. WHO WILL THROW THE SCANDAL CREATING JOEL OSTEEN OUT OF GOD’S ASTRODOME TEMPLE?
Further discussion: Joel Osteen megachurch building – Joel Osteen paid the city of Houston $90,000,000 to remodel the former home of NBA team Houston Rockets and an additional $14,000,000 to lease the building for 30 years. Preacher Joel Osteen’s megachurch does not even own the building! Pastor Joel Osteen doesn’t care though- he’ll be dead by then and this church is all about him. The most interesting thing about the new church is that there is not a SINGLE cross in the whole building! Want to know why? Joel Osteen says that he wants to remove all “stumbling blocks” from the way of people coming to his church and being comfortable. Since when has Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross been a STUMBLING BLOCK for faith?! The scandal here is that the Joel Osteen is doing and saying blasphemous things… and no one is calling him out on it. The pastor of the largest church in America won’t even follow the basic tenets of Christianity!
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Joel Osteen is unable to even keep his own family under control. Pastor Joel Olsteen’s wife, Victoria Osteen, has been fined $3,000 and is being sued for assaulting a flight attendant on her first-class trip to the playground of the rich and famous Vail, Colorado.
Bible Verses that Condemn Megachurch Pastor Joel Osteen
I have had quite a few people post in the comments asking what does it really matter what Joel Osteen believes if he’s helping people? If Joel Osteen teaches nice things, isn’t it okay for him to be a Christian pastor? I understand that my opinions of right and wrong should not sway you, but I ask you to consider what the Bible says on the matter. First, let’s take the Bible verses that are the standard definition of who is a Christian:
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 (NIV)
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 (NIV)
For the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23 (NIV)
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godnot by works, so that no one can boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)
To summarize, the only way to be saved and go to heaven is by the grace of Jesus and by faith in God. These are the basic verses that every Christian who has accepted Christ knows. Now for the verses that clearly state that only Christians who believe the above will go to Heaven:
-John 3:3: no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.
-John 3:15: everyone who believes in him [Jesus] may have eternal life.
-John 3:18: whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of Gods one and only Son.
-John 14:6: Jesus answered: No one comes to the Father except through me
-Acts 3:23: And it shall be, that every soul that shall not hearken to that prophet, shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. (ASV)
-Acts 4:12: Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved
-Romans 10:9: Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
-Hebrews 9:28: he [Christ] will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him
-1 John 5:12: he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
The nine quoted verses above clearly state that only Christians can go to Heaven. Now, if Joel Osteen truly believed and was a pastor of a Bible-based church, would he preach a false message of hope to people? Joel Osteen is essentially subverting the word of God, which motivated me to write this post. I am not sure why Joel would do this, but my postulation (as above) is that he is doing it for financial gain. Joel Osteens father was a pastor and he has been a pastor for a long time now and he should know better than most people the MOST basic tenets of Christianity. Ignorance is an excuse for new Christians (as long as they work at it), but not for a shepherd of the flock.
Do you know what the Bible says about false teachers like Joel Osteen?
-2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
-Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.
-Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
-2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
-2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
-Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
-Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
The Bible is very, very harsh in its condemnation of people who change, twist or leave out parts of its doctrine. False leaders (Joel Osteen), to me, are more disgusting than someone who is a hypocrite (Ted Haggard).
For more information on mega church pastor Joel Osteen you can search Google with the terms joelosteen.com or joel osteen.com to find the man’s website. You could also use terms such as Joel Osteen Website or Joel Osteen Lakewood Church for other sorts of information on him.
Why do I care what Joel Osteen does or doesnt do in his church, especially seeing that I am not religious? People who are cheats, fakes, and phonies really bother me. I have written quite a few other posts on various community leaders who lead people astray for their own personal gain. My tax dollars go to support Joel Osteen (every church in America is exempt from taxes, but Joel Osteen is making millions tax-free teaching his Prosperity Message when he is basically just another self-help guru). I also am very wary of megachurch pastors (I used to attend one and have seen many on television)- they often seem to be some of the craziest people (Jim Jones-Want some Kool Aid?)
I think your right Hugh! Thank You!
There are so many people who do not accept Jesus Christ as their Personal savior. They follow the writings of Saul whose writings mislead even the elect just as St. Peter tells us in the last four verses of his second letter.
Saul of Tarsus Whose letters curse the whole human race!
Saul of Tarsus who cursed the whole human race in his letters by saying, “Let anyone who does not love Jesus Christ be cursed.”
How could a newborn child possibly know and love Jesus Christ?
Yes there are so many people who make Saul of Tarsus their personal savior instead of Jesus Christ!
Amen to what you are saying Hugh!!
There is no such thing as “Unconditional Love”
If we don’t make good discernments about what we are saying and doing it is not love;
we are just following are animal instincts; which is just what the devil wants us to do.
Jesus spent three years of his life telling us what we must do to gain eternal life. That doesn’t sound “Unconditional” to me.
Of course the devil preaches “Unconditional love” because he wants people to give him money unconditional so his devil preachers can write books calling the heavevenly Father an animal.
You spend so much time tearing Joel Osteen down, it makes me think your personal life is probably a mess. Not judging you, but you say hes not biblical enough …as he is trying to reach people who are the ones who think most preachers are hypocrities….but if he were to be too biblical…then you would point out those faults? Some go to chuch to hear a relevant message…you obviously go with a notepad…like a lawyer…and try to pick apart and focus on whats not perfect…?? whats your point??
The Holy Spirit brings remembrance to all that Jesus said” Jn. 14:26
Are we to be deaf dumb and blind and let false teachers mislead us.
as Hugh just said,” Jesus is our Savior”
We have but one teacher and believe me it’s not Joel Osteen or any other mega church leader. Jesus is our one and only teacher and our savior as Hugh is telling us.
It is the Holy Spirit abiding in Hugh that is trying to help others so as not to be mislead by the devil.
Let us not speak or write words that disparage the true meaning of God’s love for us.
May the words we write or speak be laudable; The Holy Spirit reminding others of all the things that Jesus said to us. Jn. 14:26
I looked up opinions about Joel’s ministray because I have noticed that he never speaks of God’s true ways. The bible says God punishes those He calls His children. God makes promises to us but He does everything in His time not ours. We are to obey His word, trust and believe in Him but He did say we would have hard times. Joel doesn’t speak of God’s judgement or the trials of life that we must endure to bring us closer to Him.
This comment is for Justin; you know sometimes when i talk to friends or strangers about God or Jesus i get the reply that you gave the author of this article; they always tell me ” you cristians are so radical; so nobody goes to heaven but only you ” and my answer is ” I am sorry but i am not the radical one here, God is ” if you had any understanding of what you are reading in the bible you could clearly see where he stands in all his instructions and commandments ” and i did’nt get the impression that the author was judging Joel Osteen but instead the word of God was judging him; try not to shoot the messenger ! and be well my friend !
I don’t agree with anything said\written on here..your bible verse you have written ar not complete..I believe what I call water down bible…remember Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Hmmm … I’d be happy to jump on the “let’s all condemn Joel Osteen to hell” bandwagon, but it occurred to me that God makes those decisions, Not me, you, or your readers. Also the decision to write about how Joel Osteen is “going to hell” rather than “Wrong” is a sign that you were angry that he caused you to question your own belief system. It’s really an indication that you’re not comfortable in your own beliefs and that you believe Joel Osteen is somehow “getting away with it” (whatever “it” is) and that makes you so mad you want him punished. every classroom has the student whose whole identity is based on being the “best” student. He’s constantly tattling and wanting to run the classroom. Don’t be that kid, no one likes him and, if I can share a little secret … A lot of the other kids end up graduating and doing well too ..
I’m nt here 2 judge bt 2 remind all preachers wot Jesus wants there priority to be”is about his 2nd comin”rememba He’s no longa comin soon bt now.Search”prepare 2 meet your GOD”by Agelica Zambrano.
Kristen– That’s what Saul of Tarsus wrote in his letters. It is not what Jesus Christ said!
“If any man love not the lord Jesus Christ let him be “Arathema Aranatha” (cursed)
2 Corinthians !6: 22
Please Don’t be mislead by the writings of Paul in the Bible.
The author of this blog and St. Peter in the last 4 verses of peter’s second letter warns us not to be mislead by Pauls writings.
St. Pauls writings are cryptic,very hard to understand. Even the mega church leaders are mislead by Paul’s writings. We have to follow the direct quotations of Jesus; not what others think or believe.
Well, No metter if Joel is the correct one or not, the point is that he is not agresive like the author of this article, who probably claims that he is “saved”.I love Joel, even if he didn’t go to Bible school.So , how did he manage to get so “big” then? He must be doing something right, and the people do trust him.He gives us comfort.!!
I have listened to Joel Osteen for a long time, and I have Thanked God for the blessing. He may not be the person you all think he should be, but remember God knows and sees all, the Judge. Joel must be touching people’s lives, as he is the Pastor of a very large church, which is called a MegaChurch.
If Joel is bringing more people to Christ, aren’t we suppose to celebrate this? Besides who are we to judge? He is a preacher and he of all people knows if he messes with the truth, he will go to hell for it. Matthew 12:30 He who is not with me is against me and he who does not gather with me scatters . Now do you think Joel is bringing more people to Christ or away? and do u think his message is bringing people Hope or a life without? Ultimately if the speaker points to Christ who is God our saviour, the way the truth and life.. what then are your complaints about?
I think Joel Osteen is the perfect bridge in our society to Christianity. Most of us, Christian or non Christian are familiar with the Bible, its people and it’s stories. However, Joel is a “fisher” of men. He provides the hook. If he can in draw that many people, God will do the rest. No man is perfect and it is not for us to judge. It’s almost certain he will make mistakes just like every other man, woman and child on earth. Its our job as Christians to be fisher’s of men, NOT to judge them.
Leave him alone…put your energy towards other things man…your just bothered by it cuz he makes so much money…GOD REALLY GOD…u actually think theirs a GOD out their…come on.. Osteen is a motivational speaker bottom line…oprahs dumn ass all mad cuz this guy knows how to make people Belive in him…she’s mad that he makes more money then her…if u ask me oprah needs to shut her mouth…remember she help president Obama run for president…so it would b ok to say it’s her fault he’s president…people like this guy…he has that Ora about him…Belive in what u Belive in…that’s all that matters…at the end of the day ( WE ARE ALL DIRT UNDER GROUND) bottom line
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Jesus is the only way to heaven. Thank you for your writings
I am truly sorry for the people who stand in judgement of another for we shall be judged in the samd way according to scripture..If Jesus came to your home or church I hardly think so because he wouldn’t be wearing what yu would expect and he wouldn’t sit with those whome you think He should sit with ..May God forgive you judges and open your eyes so you can see with spiritual instead of just physical eyes..Jesus is the person we should be representing in our speech and actions..He said any one who is for us can not be against us..take heed you modern day pharisees
sorry in my imperfection I left out part of a sentence Would You Recognize Jesus and How?